Electrician caught signing off new install certs for non registered spark!!!

[egginyourface]

I know a few Electricians that sign off other sparks work for some easy cash. What would happen if they were caught?

Any one hear of registered electrician get done for this sort of thing??

 

[DPG]

hi peps i did a job for a old timer do did a job on loft lift he asked his mate eca chap to test his work on pir
now mr building bloke came a long and took one look at it and no, the old timer rang me up and asked me would i do a eicr
i said yes to test the tester work and mr building bloke past it

Is this from a Ladybird book? Janet & John rewire a house? Daz

 

[Silly Sausage]

T, I've got to find that 'don't ever repeat this comment' you made recently...haha!
Much fun to had in a few weeks time...

 

[egginyourface]

Look mate if I was in the situation this spark is in I'd be consulting professional legal advice not coming on here looking for answers.

I jus wanted to know what happens to . Do they get fined, slap on the wrist or worry yet trip to pentoville prison

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Look mate if I was in the situation this spark is in I'd be consulting professional legal advice not coming on here looking for answers.

I jus wanted to know what happens to . Do they get fined, slap on the wrist or worry yet trip to pentoville prison

None of the above.

No seriously, they would most likely get the slapped wrist if you can call it that much.
Perhaps a strongly worded letter in the post.

 

[markc123]

Look mate if I was in the situation this spark is in I'd be consulting professional legal advice not coming on here looking for answers.

I jus wanted to know what happens to . Do they get fined, slap on the wrist or worry yet trip to pentoville prison

Nothing will happen until something goes wrong. That's why sparks tend to stear away from signing off other peoples work, your names on it - so anything hes done wrong is no longer any concern of his no matter how serious it may be, he's in the clear. Its all up to the last name that's been in there.

 

[egginyourface]

Suppose that's why no one really knows what happens....

 

[SYKRAPS]

hi peps i did a job for a old timer do did a job on loft lift he asked his mate eca chap to test his work on pir
now mr building bloke came a long and took one look at it and no, the old timer rang me up and asked me would i do a eicr
i said yes to test the tester work and mr building bloke past it

But a PIR is just an older version of an EICR? We are all happy to perform an EICR on someone elses work but this does not lead to notification.

 

[sparkless]

we're Solar, and are permanently getting asked to sign off others peoples work with MCS.
I tell them to get lost

 

[bigbaddave]

whole system is flawed i am asking my next door neighbour to sign my next one off he is an accountant

Ah but that on valid on the second Tuesday of the month remember

 

[bigbaddave]

I'm with you on this one.. I'm struggling to see who signs off the work? Who you regerstered with? Or you get building control? If its the latter then as long as the work is ok the he can do it himself, regardless of what qualifications he has.

 

[Fin170]

Has the work been carried out correctly and to a good standard in accordance with building regs, the individual requirements and BS7671?


I'm sure the NIC will disagree but I thought that more important than whos paying for their made up schemes

 

[Piratepete]

Just don't sign off someone elses work! Your name's on the certificate - you're responsible. Even if you've done all the tests, do ypu know where the cables have been routed? How many lovely diagonal runs are there? Have you checked all connections. Are there any illegal hidden junction boxes? Do the cable sizes take account of thermal insulation? How can you tell? On the sayso of some amateur?! When you sign that certificate you're saying that the installation (not just the function), in your opinion, complies completely with BS7671. The comeback's on you!

The only certificate that you can legitimately offer is an EICR.

Pete

 

[ifindoubtdont]

When the Do-Dah hits the fan and at the subsequent court of enquiry, your name is the last one on the form. The manslaughter charge will stick.

 

[Simlec]

As long as the work done is to acceptable standard and all tests pass where is the problem it's none different to a big firm with 20 sparks and having only 1 signing off the work I know I sign off my mates work for him I don't have a problem with that nor do building control and I am not a member of any of those robbing schemes

still not sure how you notify building control?

 

[Octopus]

The reason I'm asking this is a mate if mine signed off a sparks work few months ago. Now the house holder is having issues with the installation and unregistered sparks won't go back. And customer is chasing after the guy that signed it off.

What's the outcome for the registered sparky in a situation like this?

The customer needs to contact the "scheme" who the signing sparky is a member of and make a written complaint. It might help.

 

[Guest55]

work being signed off by someone who didnt do the work ?
well the NIC have been doing it for 20 years with the QS set-up lol.
whats the difference between them and you doing it ? a membership fee ;-)
the whole system is bent so theres no point complaining about it lol.

and a little bird tells me that 3rd party inspections and certs will be approved under next years part p changes - which clearly suggests it was never enforceable anyway.

 

[Silly Sausage]

and a little bird tells me that 3rd party inspections and certs will be approved under next years part p changes - which clearly suggests it was never enforceable anyway.

Which is what the Council do now anyway when you pay them vast amounts of money to notify if you're not self certified.

 

[telectrix]

agreed. so why is it OK for LABC to test, inspect and certify someone else's work, but not for an independent sparks to do so? the £300 odd fee seems to be the answer here.

 

[morph]

same old same old

 

[Silly Sausage]

I reckon the Councils and the Schemes are members of the same Lodge.

Now where did I leave my set square?