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  1. Vortigern
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    So, although as you know, I am not a tool tart I have invested in this little time saver. As you can see from the piccy you have two splitters and two switch JB and stripper (up to 2.5mm² T&E) but the jb only take 1mm/1.5mm². This is a wise investment not just a tool for a week and then gets left somewhere. Remember a tool is for life not just christmas. IMG_3849.JPG
     
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    I looked at those a while back. Would appreciate a review when you've had a chance to use them.

    Edit:- Just to add, I like the look of them because of their small size. Useful for when a client wants a ceiling rose replacing with a fancy lamp. Currently use a Wagobox or a Click lighting connector, but they need a big hole to get them into the ceiling void. The QuickWire looks quite a bit smaller, making it an easier task.
     
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    just watched their video. looks good. onlything is you can't use them for flex( e.g. with downlights).
     
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  4. Vortigern
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    A small word of caution; I have just used one, tried it out and once they are closed you can't open them without a tool and they do not include on in the "starter" set. The strippers are Jokari and they do spare blades for them. What I do like is you can put them through a much smaller opening than a wago. Wagos' begone haha. Nah I will still use them. But mf has got to be good.
     
  5. Vortigern
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    I reckon you can as most downlights come with a connector box for 6242y to feed the light off into flex on the output side.
     
  6. Vortigern
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    Aha just cracked how to undo them once you have clicked them in. Pull out the coloured clips at both sides.
     
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    given you say 20 seconds then i think a short video is in order demonstrating this technique so you can pass on skills to us youngsters! :cool::p
     
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  8. Vortigern
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    Thats me doing a quick demo for you.:cool:
     
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    What’s the cost of them per joint ?
     
  10. Vortigern
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    Notionally £4.00 but negotiable in numbers. But say if I do 10 lights the "old" way in the ceiling rose loop in loop out etc. say 10 mins per. 1 hour and 40 mins. Labour £58.00 say 2 mins per quickwire x 10 20 mins Labour £12. I think it may work cost wise if I buy in numbers. Marginal I agree but...mmm I am weighing it up at the moment. Just when I had mastered getting the rose to look perfect wiring wise!
     
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    I got the starter set too, just for the tool as it was the cheapest I could find on the web.
    The joints I really do not see any use for in my day to day work. I can't see a solution they provide that wiring forethought cannot.

    You should get a clip that is used to release the device once engaged.
     
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  12. Vortigern
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    Well surely if used correctly I am thinking it will save a lot of cable and laying the cable? As you can truncate the whole ceiling rose wiring at the perimeter of a room and run one cable. Using the splitter you can wire up a number of lights in one room as well. It may also be of use in adding lights. I have a job coming up and rather than run a number of cables I can junction this at the point of origin and just run the load cables straight to the lights. Anyway early days will just have to see how it works in practice.
     
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    I can see the benefits in some situations. I am saving my samples for when you get those crappy bathroom fittings that are unsuitable for looping into, so I can put existing wiring into that then bring one cable to the light.
    Don't think I would use them on new jobs as I don't like to put in any junctions, MF or otherwise, on a new job.
    Can't see the material savings yet when 4-5 boxes will cost the same as 100m of 1mm twin cable.

    My achy wrists are loving the jokari tool though..... breeze on a full rewire second fix.
     
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    I did email them about this, the reply is below verbatim.

    I'm very sorry, every starter kit should usually come with one as standard! I will have to chat to the guys in dispatch and see what happened. I'll send you one first thing Tuesday and I'll put in an extra switch and load free of charge to say sorry!
     
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    Good point, I think my point was time saving in laying in cable, although as you know statutes/regs require us to use the least materials in an installation. You know its green and sustainable and so on.
     

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