Is this within regs?

[ruston]

She refused to let me do it because I wasn't qualified

Mam knows best Trev

Your time will come young trev,she said in a very commanding tone, using a North Eastern language that is both strange and puzzling

"but not here not just yet young lad", "Now go and boil that kettle ready for a proper tradesman ,thats a good lad"

The translation into English does not do the sentence justice,but you get the drift I hope

He's having you on anyway , I've never known a Geordie wi a chandelier.

 

[Des 56]

It's where they got the sketch from for "Only fools and horses". Guess who trev was

Thanks
Ah, its all as clear as broken glass now

His mam wrote the script after he was a naughty boy and spread his wings

Trev,whatever was in that reply you made,thats what I wrote
it sort of got distorted and lost in my translation

 

[trev]

He's having you on anyway , I've never known a Geordie wi a chandelier.

Ye caalin wor ma a liar? Pagga taalk that marra

 

[ruston]

Who decided it was pick on trev night?

Cos there's nowt on the telly

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Ye caalin wor ma a liar? Pagga taalk that marra

Aye but ave moved

 

[Des 56]

Cos there's nowt on the telly
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Aye but ave moved

Shame on you
No need to bring manda into the thread/poor girl is listening to radio 3 tonight

 

[Guitarist]

Yes , I would rather have a man that asks than a smart --- that thinks they know it all.

I'd rather just have someone who knows how to do the job...

 

[ruston]

Whats a radio?

 

[Tiny Spark]

Obviously ime new round here myself but this is the way I see it.

Most people really learn when they are chucked in the deep end, Much the same as driving you learn once you are in the driving seat on your own.
When I was a apprentice the first time I made off a SWA was a 1.5mm 3 core made off into a metal box and that was the only one I ever made off at college, Every other armored I have ever made off was at work so I became better at it.
I remember struggling my balls off the first few not cutting the armoring properly and attacking it with side cutters (Ahhh the joys of youth eh?)
But I learnt from my mistakes and now think nothing of it, Even chuckle watching my apprentice do the same things I did as my mentor laughed at me.

Engineers learn from doing and from making mistakes, The engineer who has never cocked up has never done anything so fair play to the OP for opening himself up.

He has learnt from his mistake and rectified it, What more could you want?

 

[ipf]

All this messin rubbish, he shudda done it in pyro, no probs then, eh....

 

[ruston]

All this messin rubbish, he shudda done it in pyro, no probs then, eh....

Bell wire , do you know nowt

 

[ipf]

Bell wire , do you know nowt

Nah chance....never did that at college :thinking2:

 

[ruston]

Nah chance....never did that at college :thinking2:

Half the additions to the pit houses are done in that up here lol.

 

[mayfair]

Pit houses with earths you posh git where's that then Ashington

Half the additions to the pit houses are done in that up here lol.

 

[ipf]

Half the additions to the pit houses are done in that up here lol.

You don't half surprise me, most the Lancy pits still had Davy lamps

 

[davethsparky]

But how can the guy ever get experience if he doesn't try?
I think you've been a bit harsh, ideally he would have got experience from his journeyman but we don't know his background, maybe he had a poor apprenticeship(if he did one that is).

I guess I'm one of the people who's being a bit harsh?

To be perfectly honest if I went to a property and saw him doing that I would have torn a strip off of him, I'm only being gentle on here cos of forum rules.

The way to get experience is not by having a go unsupervised. Should a trainee gas engineer just strike out and have a go unsupervised?
How would you like it if the person you paid to repair the brakes on your car was just spreading his wings and getting some experience on his own?

Don't forget electricity kills people!

 

[Carlosfandango]

I guess I'm one of the people who's being a bit harsh?

To be perfectly honest if I went to a property and saw him doing that I would have torn a strip off of him, I'm only being gentle on here cos of forum rules.

The way to get experience is not by having a go unsupervised. Should a trainee gas engineer just strike out and have a go unsupervised?
How would you like it if the person you paid to repair the brakes on your car was just spreading his wings and getting some experience on his own?

Don't forget electricity kills people!

Fair comment!
The point I was making was that he may well be qualified, maybe just lacking in experience. I was let loose on the public as a 4th year apprentice, I didn't know it all, still don't!

 

[davethsparky]

I bet you weren't let loose on just any job though. The people letting you loose would have known your abilities and what jobs they were sending you to.

 

[Carlosfandango]

True, but I learnt pretty damn quick when I came up against something unfamiliar!!

 

[ruston]

Pit houses with earths you posh git where's that then Ashington

Aye an them chandel wats it's too.

 

[ruston]

You don't half surprise me, most the Lancy pits still had Davy lamps

Loads for years in the ootside netties. I have a good few old lamps

 

[Silly Sausage]

Aye an them chandel wats it's too.

A Geordie Chandelier...

 

[ruston]

A Geordie Chandelier...

Ah n now I know what Trev was on about. When a was a bairn I used to make table lamps oot o me Dads Dimple bottles , now that is posh.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Ah n now I know what Trev was on about. When a was a bairn I used to make table lamps oot o me Dads Dimple bottles , now that is posh.

We used VAT 69 bottles.

 

[ruston]

You don't half surprise me, most the Lancy pits still had Davy lamps

Here is one of the very first miners lamps, pic is courtesy of a friend with similar interest,

 

[ruston]

We used VAT 69 bottles.

Damm, you were lucky....................

 

[Silly Sausage]

We're all rich down here south of Northallerton!!!

 

[ruston]

We're all rich down here south of Northallerton!!!

A wis doon the soof once , coodny mek oot wit they wir onaboot.

 

[trev]

Loads for years in the ootside netties. I have a good few old lamps

Wa geet posh noo ye knaa, inside bogs an aal. Still need the syefty lamps in wor nettie afta the bairns hiv bin in, tha liftin man!

 

[ruston]

Wa geet posh noo ye knaa, inside bogs an aal. Still need the syefty lamps in wor nettie afta the bairns hiv bin in, tha liftin man!

Ah had one o them hat lamps afore all this posh gear come oot , divent na ther born man.

 

[trev]

Ah had one o them hat lamps afore all this posh gear come oot , divent na ther born man.

A hat lamp? ye mean a cendle on ya flat cap lyk?

 

[ruston]

A hat lamp? ye mean a cendle on ya flat cap lyk?

Aye , then a got geet posh an got a carbide, man ye coodny taak tiv is

 

[ipf]

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Here is one of the very first miners lamps, pic is courtesy of a friend with similar interest,

Mi grandad used t'ride wun o them wum from th'ead

 

[ruston]

Aye , flintstone , spot on.

 

[Aindowsimon]

There are some good glanding methods out there I feel like I'm behind the times , glanding is pretty easy and yet people seem to make hard work of it and a pigs ear to

 

[ruston]

There are some good glanding methods out there I feel like I'm behind the times , glanding is pretty easy and yet people seem to make hard work of it and a pigs ear to

It's fine but you have used the wrong colour of tape , other than that it is spot on. The red right next to the fixing hole sets the job off , well done.

 

[Andy78]

And another

 

[ruston]

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And another

And an easy one too. pure laziness!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Is this within the regs? I can't get the thread of the gland through the box to get the banjo inside. I wanted to use the swa but if not will rely on one of the cores.

look..:
if you are not going to gland off and secure an SWA correctly then dont even start the job in the first place....will you..

and posting images of that old tosh in here is just asking for it really....isn`t it..

get it dismantled and done rite...

 

[Sparkie30]

look..:
if you are not going to gland off and secure an SWA correctly then dont even start the job in the first place....will you..

and posting images of that old tosh in here is just asking for it really....isn`t it..

get it dismantled and done rite...

If you bother to read other posts he has already re done it again.

i take it you and alot of members here never asked for advice or never made a mistake out there i wonder how you all learned? sorry i know you all god's gift

 

[KAS1]

Personally I think the question asked would be the same as a chippy on a forum asking how to "hang a door" not a specialized one at that lol

 

[Guitarist]

If you bother to read other posts he has already re done it again.

i take it you and alot of members here never asked for advice or never made a mistake out there i wonder how you all learned? sorry i know you all god's gift

We spent years completing an apprenticeship and having our backsides kicked when we made mistakes. The important thing, however, was that there was someone who knew exactly how to do the job correctly watching over us to step in when we messed up.
Yes, it was done again, but still not to the standard which most of us would expect to see.

 

[jamie-spark]

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This is quite neat.

Who manufactures these boxes?
The look pretty neat. I use the swa piranha nuts.

 

[KAS1]

I agree, that's how we learned and you made sure you didn't mess up again, that's why the apprenticeship system worked far better IMO than all this have a go and check it out on a forum lark FFS how on earth do some of these people dare call themselves sparks lol

 

[7029 dave]

All I am a gonnar say is, some of my 1st year apprentice's would have done a better job!!

 

[KAS1]

Good to hear that, it means to me they are being taught correctly and will not be on a forum posing as a sparks asking the basics when the come out of their time.

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they............................

 

[GLENNSPARK]

If you bother to read other posts he has already re done it again.

i take it you and alot of members here never asked for advice or never made a mistake out there i wonder how you all learned? sorry i know you all god's gift

when i see stuff like that i dont generally bother to read much more of it...
i am sure you can understand this...

 

[Sparkie30]

All I am a gonna say is, some of my 1st year apprentice's would have done a better job!!

im pretty sure you have and ive seen some very experienced sparks with gold jib who carried out work which was nothing short of a shocker.

i think it all depends if you take pride of the work you do.

 

[ipf]

We spent years completing an apprenticeship and having our backsides kicked when we made mistakes. The important thing, however, was that there was someone who knew exactly how to do the job correctly watching over us to step in when we messed up.
Yes, it was done again, but still not to the standard which most of us would expect to see.

Yep, and the basic question is, why would anyone even attempt to complete a task such as this without knowing and understanding the factors and consequences involved. At least he knew there was something wrong and some would have left it as it was, but there's no getting away from the fact that it is trial and error guess work.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I never have had much to do with SWA, but I have never seen a SWA gland like that before.

Is it somethiug new?

 

[mayfair]

Its a southern thing

I never have had much to do with SWA, but I have never seen a SWA gland like that before.

Is it somethiug new?