JIB - Completed Apprenticeship 1998

[Nolan1977]

Hi I’m having trouble with getting “Completed Apprenticeship” on back of my card although I’m graded as an “Installation Technical”.

I finished my apprenticeship in 1998. I didn’t ever remember receiving a JIB409 did they even exist then ? No idea where my training deeds are either. Did anyone finish their apprenticeship in 1998 or around that time and get a JIB 409 ?

 

[123]

I completed mine in 2003 and all I have from the JIB is a Completion Diploma. My gold card has completed apprenticeship on the back of it

 

[Nolan1977]

I completed mine in 2003 and all I have from the JIB is a Completion Diploma. My gold card has completed apprenticeship on the back of it

Pretty sure the NVQ3 thing started in 1999 so I was the last year that didn’t need that.

I have a few certs from my 236 part 1&2 and an AM1 & AM2 but nothing regarding completion of apprenticeship.

I have an ECS gold card graded as a Technician but want ‘completed apprenticeship’ for all those years of £40 a week

 

[swaRRR]

I have an ECS gold card graded as a Technician but want ‘completed apprenticeship’ for all those years of £40 a week

Do you get more money for that?

 

[Nolan1977]

Do you get more money for that?

Nope it’s more principle

 

[swaRRR]

Nope it’s more principle

Seems like a waste of time to chase having those words on the back of a card that stays in your wallet for 99.9% of its life.

 

[westward10]

Seems like a waste of time to chase having those words on the back of a card that stays in your wallet for 99.9% of its life.

You seem to have a very negative attitude toward this kind of thing and that is fine it is your prerogative but if you have nothing positive to say you should leave the thread alone.

 

[swaRRR]

You seem to have a very negative attitude toward this kind of thing and that is fine it is your prerogative but if you have nothing positive to say you should leave the thread alone.

I just think it's a time sink chasing something that isn't going to make any difference to someone's life, job opportunities, wages, or status.

I could see the point if you say had it printed on the side of the van like when you're a member of NIC and they've only given you the logo without 'approved contractor' written on it or something, but for a card that just stays in your pocket i don't see the point wasting time chasing it up.

 

[Eddy Currents]

I just think it's a time sink chasing something that isn't going to make any difference to someone's life, job opportunities, wages, or status.

If you had done the same or even spent more than a few days on just an 18th edition course instead of the few years everyone else does then maybe you would understand

If titles do not matter to you then why do you call yourself a qualified electrician when you are just a mate?

 

[GBDamo]

If you had done the same or even spent more than a few days on just an 18th edition course instead of the few years everyone else does then maybe you would understand

If titles do not matter to you then why do you call yourself a qualified electrician when you are just a mate?

Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, the JIB gold card tells you very little about the man's capabilities.

The majority of Gold card holders are on big sites, following designs and drawings, doing a very specific aspect of the trade day in day out. The vast majority of of the skills and knowledge for these specialities are gained on site and these specialists will forget 95% of the detail contained in their formal education.

An entry card that focuses so intensely on formal qualifications is not fit for purpose.

The JIB is anachronistic and the Gold card an anachronism. It harks back to Unionised closed shops where being part of the club was more important than capability.

They are barriers to entry, not conduits.

Disclosue; I don't have one, came through the short course route, got a labourers card some time ago.

I understand people being very protective of the Gold Card, having jumped through all the hoops, I'd probably be the same, and it's also very self affirming.

But.. the Gold Card doesn't make your the Electrician you are.