Live cable taken straight off busbar..Reg no. required.

[Deleted member 9648]

I'm not sure these boards even had a cover over those bars, they are on the load side of the isolator and a lot of boards of that vintage didn't cover the bars on the load side. I'd agree with checking carefully for any thermal or mechanical damage caused by the termination....but otherwise, don't think I'd be overly concerned if I came across it on an EICR.

 

[ipf]

I'm not sure these boards even had a cover over those bars, they are on the load side of the isolator and a lot of boards of that vintage didn't cover the bars on the load side. I'd agree with checking carefully for any thermal or mechanical damage caused by the termination....but otherwise, don't think I'd be overly concerned if I came across it on an EICR.

See#12.....and the fixing holes

 

[westward10]

No that board never had busbar covers and how anyone can look for excuses to find that acceptable is beyond me.

 

[Andy78]

No that board never had busbar covers and how anyone can look for excuses to find that acceptable is beyond me.

There's a difference between finding something acceptable to do and finding an existing bodge dangerous enough to recommend immediate disconnection.

 

[dtec dave]

Is it over 3 meters? Lol

There is a cover for the busbars, it was just loosely placed over as the offending cable prevents it being screwed down. I would have to notch out the cover to fix it down.

 

[westward10]

There's a difference between finding something acceptable to do and finding an existing bodge dangerous enough to recommend immediate disconnection.

I agree but I would not like to make a judgement on a non recommended ad hoc connection that it does not pose a danger as you have nothing to gauge it against. It is difficult to see but the only way that lug can be fitting flat to the busbar is if it has broken the plastic busbar support which it looks like it has.

 

[jackhammerJIM]

If this was a domestic board and the connection was on the busbar you would all code it on an EICR .

 

[westward10]

I will Code it no matter where it is.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

My concern would be whether the bolt passes through the Bakelite.
If it does, then it is there to hold the bar in place, not for connecting cables.
It would be better to drill a hole elsewhere on the bar to connect.
Using single phase colours is correct.

 

[westward10]

Drill a hole elsewhere on the busbar !!

 

[westward10]

Drill a hole elsewhere on the busbar !!
But yes that is a busbar support with the bolt captive in the bakelite so you could never tighten it too much.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Drill a hole elsewhere on the busbar !!
But yes that is a busbar support with the bolt captive in the bakelite so you could never tighten it too much.

That’s ok then.
Just need to cut a hole in the cover for the cable.

 

[ipf]

No that board never had busbar covers QUOTE]




Mystic Meg?

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I will Code it no matter where it is.

Hopefully there isn't an MCB with more than one cable connected as well or you'll have the place evacuated

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I agree but I would not like to make a judgement on a non recommended ad hoc connection that it does not pose a danger as you have nothing to gauge it against. It is difficult to see but the only way that lug can be fitting flat to the busbar is if it has broken the plastic busbar support which it looks like it has.

You could gauge it by the fact that it has almost certainly been there for a considerable time, (red cable), and seems not to have spontaneously combusted yet.

 

[Wilko]

If the bolt just screws into the bakelite I'm not sure you could reliably torque it. So I'm back with the thought that it's a locating bolt, not a termination point so it will not be designed for this use.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

If you expand the photo, you can see that the nut and bolt is connecting two lengths of busbar.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

If this was a domestic board and the connection was on the busbar you would all code it on an EICR .

Would you care to quote the regulation you are basing that on?

 

[Wilko]

If you expand the photo, you can see that the nut and bolt is connecting two lengths of busbar.

Oops - missed that

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Yeah, I did at first.