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[neil_ev]

Hi all.

When upgrading a fuse box to a 17th ed. CU is it a legal requirement to get an isolation switch fitted, or can it be done live. Far from ideal I know, but the £90 price tag set by manweb puts a lot of customers off.

Thanks.

 

[coachincolin]

In Scotland the energy suppliers will give seals to registered sparks. They state that they will prosecute sparks who cut seals but never heard of anyone being prosecuted yet.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Me too.

The cane, the strap, gym slipper - even the blackboard ruler and blackboard duster. If teachers behaved that way today, they'd end-up in jail but it worked for me. I hated those teachers at the time, but if I could meet them now I would shake their hands and thank them.

When I started my apprenticeship I thought the foreman was a right barstool who had it in for me. It seemed that no matter what I did I couldn't do right for doing wrong.

It got so bad I went for an interview as a grass cutter with the local council. I got the job, but had second thoughts and turned it down & persevered with my apprenticeship.

20 years later when I had my own business I wanted some special tooling made and I went to him - he had become the boss by then as THE boss had died - and got him to do it and I thanked him for the bloody good training he gave me. We became good friends after that.

Hahaha...pretty similar experience myself at school.
I was 71-78, (brutally) thrashed on many an occasion. If it was nowadays, there would hardly be any teachers left in that school!
I came out with 9 O levels, 1 CSE (French!) & 3 A levels. If I'd gone to the local comprehensive, which was seriously dog rough at the time, I'd have almost certainly left at 16 without a single qualification to my name.

Am I emotionally scarred from all that, Am I ----! My life would almost certainly be considerably worse than it is now, if I hadn't had a bit of sense beaten into me now and again.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Hahaha...pretty similar experience myself at school.
I was 71-78, (brutally) thrashed on many an occasion. If it was nowadays, there would hardly be any teachers left in that school!
I came out with 9 O levels, 1 CSE (French!) & 3 A levels. If I'd gone to the local comprehensive, which was seriously dog rough at the time, I'd have almost certainly left at 16 without a single qualification to my name.

Am I emotionally scarred from all that, Am I ----! My life would almost certainly be considerably worse than it is now, if I hadn't had a bit of sense beaten into me now and again.

I'm with you all the way.

 

[richy3333]

right , thats it , enoughs enough.

to the OP - if you need strangers on the internet to spell out to you how to cut the power for a CU change , then clearly you shouldnt be working on your own.

to the gooner - your use of the written language is a pityful garbled mess.

It taken a while but at last somebody said something sensible

 

[GLENNSPARK]

the problem is that your new tails have to go into the meter. loads of posters have said cut the fuse seals but don't touch the meter seals. this means using henley blocks to connect your new tails into the old meter tails. then you got to call supplier to connect them direct into meter. catch 22.

well i dont give a tupenny damn....

i`ll cut them meter seals if it warrents it....i dont care....

 

[GLENNSPARK]

because to fit isolaters in every property would cost a fortune , this is why we tell customers to ring then they install , its planning , if the house cu is on fire then you ring straightaway . oh biff thanks i think .

cost who a fortune?

the consumer...or the DNO....lol

the DNO for fitting the damn things....but not for the cost of fitting them....more like the lost revenue due to their callouts drying up..

the recent debacle over smart meters should be enough evidence here....lol..

 

[richy3333]

In Scotland the energy suppliers will give seals to registered sparks. They state that they will prosecute sparks who cut seals but never heard of anyone being prosecuted yet.

Not my experience at all in my area. Hydro allow NICEIC/SELECT sparks to cut seals so long as appropriate PPE is used etc. They reseal when the meter is next read

 

[Badged01]

The cane, the strap, gym slipper - even the blackboard ruler and blackboard duster.

I always seem to remember the use of them on me in the classroom preceded by the words ...... "you laddie at the back"

 

[Knobhead]

Going back to the 80’s the meter readers checked the seals. It’s a good job they didn’t look too close. Mine had EMEB seals on a NWEB meter.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I always seem to remember the use of them on me in the classroom preceded by the words ...... "you laddie at the back"

I don't remember ever getting any advanced warning of an attack - it just happened - a totally unannounced air strike by a blackboard duster

Those wooden blackboard dusters had some weight behind them mind when they landed on yer heid.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I don't remember ever getting any advanced warning of an attack - it just happened - a totally unannounced air strike by a blackboard duster

Those wooden blackboard dusters had some weight behind them mind when they landed on yer heid.

Amateur!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Amateur!

PAH!!

Hark at him who went to school with his Ma's colander strapped to his heid every day!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

well i dont give a tupenny damn....

i`ll cut them meter seals if it warrents it....i dont care....

Just for you Glenn

John Fogerty - I Don't Care (Just As Long As).wmv - YouTube

 

[Silly Sausage]

PAH!!

Hark at him who went to school with his Ma's colander strapped to his heid every day!!

That was the filter to let only the sensible stuff into my brain.
I think it must have been broken though.

 

[DPG]

I can't remember exactly what was said now, but did you say you always upgrade tails to 25mm on a CU change? Thanks, Daz

 

[telectrix]

if 16mm tails have been there for donkeys, i'd leave them in unless there was concern with an increased load that may overload them.

 

[DPG]

I was querying what the op said, rathee than asking the question myself. Daz

 

[DPG]

Ah, in all the confusion of 8 pages of this thread I got confused !!. It was 'jaythegonney's post (no. 24) I was querying. Apologies to the OP. Daz

 

[spark 68]

Daz,

Myself, and I suspect most sparks only upgrade the tails, if they are damaged (old VIR crumbling), or grossly undersized or too short etc., albeit I only use 25mm tails now (in domestic), for both new builds where a 100A fuse may fitted, and because I only stock one size for domestic, not because I have to fit 25mm in all cases, but just because it makes sense to rationalise stock.

 

[DPG]

Daz,

Myself, and I suspect most sparks only upgrade the tails, if they are damaged (old VIR crumbling), or grossly undersized or too short etc., albeit I only use 25mm tails now (in domestic), for both new builds where a 100A fuse may fitted, and because I only stock one size for domestic, not because I have to fit 25mm in all cases, but just because it makes sense to rationalise stock.

I was just interested as he seemed to be implying that he would automatically change them on any CU change. Daz