Old Style light fitting.

[Daaron93]

Afternoon all.

Ive got a little side job here and its boggling my mind a little so hoping you can help. (Domestic electrical isnt my strength... Ill keep to highways electrics)

Basically they want this Light fitting in the living ( picture attached)
As you can see there isnt a ceiling rose fixture or anything to screw too. Is there an rose adapator and component to which i can wire the loops and outgoing to the light? Then obviously secure it to the ceiling?

The initial fixture was connector blocked together and held up by two screws so nothing to go off.

Hope you can help.

 

[telectrix]

that fitting uses a plate with a hook on it, screwed to the ceiling. the cone then slides up to cover the connections. when the hook is missing, i've used a screw-in hook into the joist as a substitute.

 

[Daaron93]

Cheers for the reply.

Do you know any specific name or where i can find a plate? Google isnt much help!

I assume the cone then clicks into place?

 

[telectrix]

cone usually has a screw to secure it to the short tube containing the wires. any sort of hook into the joist will do as long as it fits in so the cone will goup tight to the ceiling.

however. that's a metal fitting and appears to have no provision for earthing, so i'd be dubious about fitting it.

 

[snowhead]

Hook plate, but as Tel, needs an earth.

Deta Metal Conduit Hookplates

www.toolstation.com

 

[Daaron93]

Hook plate, but as Tel, needs an earth.

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[Daaron93]

Could an earth be created?

 

[LewisM]

Could an earth be created?

Terminal crimp in between the screw and the hook plate

 

[DPG]

Terminal crimp in between the screw and the hook plate

Not sure you would get a reliable earth to the main part of the fitting though.

 

[telectrix]

Hook plate, but as Tel, needs an earth.

Deta Metal Conduit Hookplates

www.toolstation.com

fhat's toobig/industrial. needs ne of these:

 

[Yozza19]

I’ve used a medium curtain hook before today when missing few pence from diy store

 

[brianmoooore]

Google 'cup hook' for the fixing.
been asked to do quite a few of this kind of thing over the years, and almost always you need to replace the brass lampholders with ones that have an earthing terminal built in, and rewire to suit. Any other large metal parts of the structure should also have an earthing tag attached and wired in.