Pulling the main fuse :/

[Des 56]

Not once in this thread have I heard of a "Pair of Marigolds" mentioned

 

[Daniel Cotter]

Only if its a metal clad mate

 

[Dave 85]

Its not illegal anywhere...
As long as you deny all knowledge that is

 

[Dave 85]

You're talking out of your rear end. Yes you are correct that you need to have authorisation to work on their equipment and/or make alterations to their equipment as it is their property, this is even mentioned in the ESQCRs however removing a fuse is not working on their equipment nor is it altering it!!

Shame, I guess from now on all firemen have got to hold cocopops certification to pull main fuses too, if they don't they've just got to watch the property set alight and burn to the ground

D Skelton...
I'm already a big fan of your work, and now you have Rommel as your avatar. Awesome!

 

[telectrix]

Not once in this thread have I heard of a "Pair of Marigolds" mentioned

they have been, on an early post.

 

[Guest111]

One of the worst examples of not pulling the fuse happened to one of my apprentices some years back,before D lock came in loop testers had a habit of tripping RCD's,so the trick was to link it out while you did the test.Now I'd always drummed it into my lads to ALWAYS pull the bullet before doing this,and taught them the safe way to do it,after all if you had pulled it to replace tails why chance it live to drop the link in?There were almost no isolators back then,anyway our boss was one of those who would pull the tails live and tape them up while he changed a board,he went mad if anyone pulled a bullet preferring to take stupid risks at times.My apprentice had finally qualified and was out with the boss doing testing, they came to a job I was on and when it came to linking out the RCD the boss insisted it was done live,the tail dropped out and hit the gas pipe,there was a big bang and a blue flash,the young lad was stood there shaking ,luckily the gas pipe suffered no damage sadly the same could not be said for the service fuse which had blown.We then had to call out the DNO to get it replaced,I really enjoyed explaining to their engineer why the fuse had blown,but I enjoyed it even more hearing him tear a strip off the boss for telling the young lad to work live.

 

[driverman]

You're talking out of your rear end. Yes you are correct that you need to have authorisation to work on their equipment and/or make alterations to their equipment as it is their property, this is even mentioned in the ESQCRs however removing a fuse is not working on their equipment nor is it altering it!!

Shame, I guess from now on all firemen have got to hold cocopops certification to pull main fuses too, if they don't they've just got to watch the property set alight and burn to the ground

i heard many years go, if the fireman want the power off, they just aim the hose at the cutout and bang power off!!

 

[ElectriCall]

The SSE recently told me it ws fine to cut the seal, as I'm NICEIC registered

 

[LeckyBill]

The SSE recently told me it ws fine to cut the seal, as I'm NICEIC registered

really do wpd allow the same

 

[Engineer54]

The SSE recently told me it ws fine to cut the seal, as I'm NICEIC registered

From the many cock-up's brought to our notice on here, i'd suggest that being registered with the NICEIC, is a damned good reason NOT to let them anywhere near the service cutout!! lol!!

 

[Mr Hehound]

really do wpd allow the same

Western Power.

Not so far as I know.

In reality the ones I've met don't give a damn.

Talking to some the other day at a property and they asked me if I wanted the seal leaving off the head in case I needed the supply off again as there was no isolator.

I said to them that I thought this was 'not on' and they basically said its the meter seal they're more worried about and it didn't look like the elderly lady in the place looked like she was about to go on the rob.

They left the seal off and went on their way.

100% they'd deny all knowledge of that conversation if I was to 'go a bit wrong' and take the power out to the street (or worse) mind.

 

[guinnessgixer]

amount of times ive put a c2 on an eicr because spark before has cut seal and not replaced for consumer change, we all do it those who say they don't are lying !! top tip I buy mine off ebay, cheap as chips!!!

 

[Des 56]

amount of times ive put a c2 on an eicr because spark before has cut seal and not replaced for consumer change, we all do it those who say they don't are lying !! top tip I buy mine off ebay, cheap as chips!!!

Please tell me you have got to be joking

When we carry out an eicr it is to determine if the installation is suitable for safe continued use,what has a seal got to do with safe continued use

What in heavens name has a seal on a fuse that most users have no idea whatsoever what it is or what it protects have to do with their safety

 

[GLENNSPARK]

amount of times ive put a c2 on an eicr because spark before has cut seal and not replaced for consumer change, we all do it those who say they don't are lying !! top tip I buy mine off ebay, cheap as chips!!!

go away and look at what constitutes a 2 will you before posting complete twaddle like this ....

it`s embarrassing

 

[Daniel Cotter]

Are we still going on about this. No one cares about the seals on the cut out.

 

[Des 56]

Are we still going on about this. No one cares about the seals on the cut out.

Whatever is happening to our industry,i honestly despair

 

[Daniel Cotter]

Whatever is happening to our industry,i honestly despair

Just stating the facts mate. Ive not once seen or herd of a report, inquiry or what about seals being cut.

1 They dont get reported. Infact no is told by higher authority to report them.

2 Theres no way that anyone can prove who cut the seals.

The only time seals being cut gets noticed is when there is a theft of electricity. Even then its mainly the larger seals on the screws that hold the meter together that attracts attention.

 

[Des 56]

Just stating the facts mate. Ive not once seen or herd of a report, inquiry or what about seals being cut.

1 They dont get reported. Infact no is told by higher authority to report them.

2 Theres no way that anyone can prove who cut the seals.



only time seals being cut gets noticed is when there is a theft of electricity. Even then its mainly the larger seals on the screws that hold the meter together that attracts attention.

Exactly my thoughts as well Daniel,there is a lot of panic and warnings based on nothing more than unwarranted fear,it would be amazing if anyone on this forum could ever produce any evidence to the contrary.maybe someone fiddling the meter but never ever seals missing

 

[Engineer54]

Exactly my thoughts as well Daniel,there is a lot of panic and warnings based on nothing more than unwarranted fear,it would be amazing if anyone on this forum could ever produce any evidence to the contrary.maybe someone fiddling the meter but never ever seals missing

As far as i'm concerned, it's not a question about seals being cut/broken, it's all about the plonkers that are around these day's pulling cut-out fuses that don't have a clue what they are doing. Especially when faced with the old cast iron cut-outs!! If known accidents has been reported by DNO staff themselves, what chance has an inexperienced, under qualified fast track so-called DI??

 

[Knobhead]

All I can say is “I’m happy I’m retired.”

I don’t have to put up with idiots any more!

 

[Geordie Spark]

All I can say is “I’m happy I’m retired.”

I don’t have to put up with idiots any more!

Tony ......

...... it's late ......

... get yersel' away to bed ....

....... and pull your main fuse.

Sweet dreams.

 

[Knobhead]

Tony ......

...... it's late ......

... get yersel' away to bed ....

....... and pull your main fuse.

Sweet dreams.

I wish! Sleep whats that?

 

[Rockingit]

As far as i'm concerned, it's not a question about seals being cut/broken, it's all about the plonkers that are around these day's pulling cut-out fuses that don't have a clue what they are doing. Especially when faced with the old cast iron cut-outs!! If known accidents has been reported by DNO staff themselves, what chance has an inexperienced, under qualified fast track so-called DI??

One word answer: Darwin

 

[Rockingit]

amount of times ive put a c2 on an eicr because spark before has cut seal and not replaced for consumer change, we all do it those who say they don't are lying !! top tip I buy mine off ebay, cheap as chips!!!

Jesus man! You for real??!! The cut out isn't part of the consumers installation therefore isn't even covered by BS7671 (110.2) in the first place!! As for a C2 even if it was..... words fail me.

 

[Rampantchilli]

I once changed a CU where the seals were missing, many months after the customer asked me to go round as she had some problems, when I arrived she really laid into me, someone from the DNO metering department had been round and said I'd left the cut out in an extremely dangerous state and he was going to contact the HSE and report me, I **** a brick to be frank, when I took a look I had not resealed the meter! But worse still, nor had the meter reader. I explained that the fact it's behind a locked door behind heavy furniture means its not really dangerous or indeed accessible, and if it was that bad then why did he leave it un sealed.

i sealed it up and walked away laughing

 

[Guest111]

Jesus wept, 75 posts on pulling a fuse! and that's on this thread alone,this has had more remakes than star wars! maybe we should put all posts about this in one place and be done with it.the bottom line is it's like a lot of things,some people smoke cannabis,it's illegal but they do it,in the same way as some people pull service fuses,also illegal( technically) but some do it.It's all about personal opinion and knowing when and when not to do it.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I wish! Sleep whats that?

It's like death - but you recover from it.