Requires in a day

[highspark]

I ain't avin it!

Was speaking to someone in wholesales who reckons him another spark and mate have been rewiring and second fixing in an 8 hour day!

Thats either bravado or it's going to be poor poor quality and against the regs

*bloody iPhone put requires instead if rewires

 

[adamh]

Did you do all the making good & plastering aswell?

it depends on the customer but we would get a plasterer to do it or on council theyre lads do it

 

[vernam616]

All made good And plastered up, cable runs like they should be, its just doing your work in fast forward

DB very neat not birds nest as you say, im not going to lie i can see your point as ive seen these, but like i say clerk of works is **** hot and everything got to be tip top

It can and still will continue to be done whether you beleve it or not

 

[Dave 85]

I took £850 for the last one i did, not bad for 12 hours

£850 for a days graft is not to be sniffed at, and if you can work that fast, more power to you, I dont think I could.

Fastest I've done is 2 bed bungalow rewire with 3/4 sockets per room, all chased + BT's and TV points, me and a 3rd yr apprentice 4 days working 11 hours a day then me on my own for another 11 hr day. I made about £2,500-£3000 profit in those 5 days, so was pretty chuffed.

Never done any council work.
Rewiring a house a day and getting paid a ton to do it.....seriously? I'd want a grand a day.

 

[highspark]

I'm not having this at all. As said new building regs you should have extractors and smokes on top of a shower, cooker, up sockets. Down sockets, kit sockets, up lights, down lights and a consumer unit. 4 sockets in each living room 6 in kitchen. 1 in up hall one in down hall. First and second fixed in a day no way!!

These houses must have one socket per room. It takes me and apprentice 6 full days to do lived in requires. 5 for empty with carpets

 

[Engineer54]

It was common practice for council house rewires to take a day, whole estates were rewired using this time frame in the late 70's and 80's. Not saying that that everything was to to-days requirements, regarding min number of sockets per designated room and fans etc, it was more like replacing like for like, with a couple of added sockets in the kitchen!! ..lol!! And they were completed to a pretty high standard as well!! But then that's when being an electrician actually meant something!! lol!!

Still reckon it could be done in a day today, once you get into a system of working with 2 sparks and a mate.

 

[johnboy6083]

Sod all that chasing though. When i first left the army, i was a mtae, doing house bashing in Bromley, and we rewired a few houses, chasing completely by hand. It kills your arms and wrists. Ive also done rewires on a housing project that had bricks that were meade from this black stuff, i think it contained iron filings. We had a chaser, but it didnt like it one bit, and we were forever changing the blades.
I later discovered the far more complex and interesting world of industrial electrics, and i enjoy it a lot more.

 

[imago]

So how does the testing and write up figure in this? I can see how three blokes can do three days work in a day, but the testing can't be done until the circuits are in. To do all the tests and write up the results takes a fair bit of time surely?

 

[telectrix]

On decent homes work they rip out the kitchen and bathroom on day one, then you rewire on day two, then they come back to fit new kitchen, bathroom and tile.
Theres nothing holding you up (except the furniture :Mr-T: )

so..... , who takes the faceplates off for the tiler and then refits them after? how long do you wait for the plaster to go off after 1st fix? all in a day? pull the other one.

 

[Engineer54]

So how does the testing and write up figure in this? I can see how three blokes can do three days work in a day, but the testing can't be done until the circuits are in. To do all the tests and write up the results takes a fair bit of time surely?

The write-up's, well those will probably be done down the pub!! Probably won't make much sense in the morning mind!! ...lol!!

 

[vernam616]

Tiler unscrews the front, tiles then screws back

It happens, end of

 

[Jay Sparks]

My house is a 3 bed council house and last year they did a full rewire in 8 hours. Smokes, up ring, down ring, up lights, down lights, fan in bathroom and kitchen, 2x outside lights, boiler spur new wylex board all rcbo's. All chased out and run correctly. They use safety box's which enable them to fit the sockets/switchs before the chases get plastered at a later date. I also used to work for the company that did it, they worked in gangs of 4/5. 2 sparky's and 2 mates/apprentices. All the kit was ready in a box and they started bang on 8am. Worked like hell though 5 days a week. Defo can be done!!

Jay

 

[Jay Sparks]

These are the safety boxs that they used. The director of the firm I worked for invented these. We called them "Uzi box's"




Putting these on made it easy and safe for the plasterer, tiler and decorater. The rewire team would do IR, Zs, Ze etc to make sure it was ok but not the paper work, then after the tiler, plasterer and decorater had been (2 weeks later) I would go in and I & T, fill in the EIC and remove the "Uzi box's" which was a pain in the arse because all the screws had to be cut down. Now I know your all gonna jump an my back because it should have been I & T before being put into service but this was the way it was done and neither the council or niceic or anyone else had a prob with it and being new to testing at the time, I didnt know different. They said if we tested it and did the EIC straight away, the plaserer or tiler etc could damage the cable/accessorie and it would have to be repaird and tested again any way. I must of tested over 300 of these council rewires over the years.

Jay

 

[highspark]

Regarding second fixing before plastering and tiling .

Ive just done one like this. Customer told me they have to wait 3 weeks for the spread. I said sod that! He will have to unscrew and rescrew any faults after that will be charged at an hourly rate to customer.

The worst thing was the place had just had a damp proof so all my boxes where deep as anything.

Once bonded back up after the course had been done, I had to provide longer screws at my own cost (wasnt happy at all). But once the skin goes on top of the bonding they will possibly have to buy longer screws again good luck to the plasterer. I hate them anyway. Always messing with cables etc.

If they don't know how to stop water getting in an screw a socket fascia back they aren't competent enough to be on site IMO.

 

[Jay Sparks]

Every time Ive done the first fix, left the cable nice and neat in the back box, not sticking out, then gone back after the plasterer, ive found all my back boxs and cable were filled with plaster (W**%£S), so I just smash the plaster out and tell the customer, they have to repair it once Ive fitted the socket.

But we had problems with kitchen fitters aswell, when the rewire was done, the bonding was connected to the gas and water, then, after the plasterer had been, the kitchen fitters would do there bit but they would dissconect the bonding so they could fit there units and not bother reconnecting it.

Or the gas meter had not been fit when the rewire had been done so the lads run the 10mm to were the meter was going but the gas man would not connect the bond after he fit the meter.

Jay

 

[imago]

So if the inspect and test is done on a separate day then it's not a rewire in a day surely? You can't describe it as complete job when bits are left for someone else to do later.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Every time Ive done the first fix, left the cable nice and neat in the back box, not sticking out, then gone back after the plasterer, ive found all my back boxs and cable were filled with plaster (W**%£S), so I just smash the plaster out and tell the customer, they have to repair it once Ive fitted the socket. But we had problems with plumbers and kitchen fitters aswell, when the rewire was done, the bonding was connected to the gas and water, then, after the plasterer had been the kitchen fitters would do there bit but they would dissconect the bond to fit there units and not bother reconnecting it. Or the gas meter had not been fit when the rewire had been done so the lads run the 10mm to were the meter was going but the gas man would not connect the bond after he fit the meter.

Jay

yeah well they`v got no business disconnecting safety electrical connections....christ its even tagged as such....

 

[Jay Sparks]

The i&t was done the same day to make sure it was safe but no paper work was done until later when I went and did it all again. They could of done the paper work aswell but after all the other trades had to go in and mess with it all, it would not have been safe and the EIC would have been worthless. I guess they had a lot of problems doing it the right way so to speak and everyone concerned got together and decided this was the best way to do it, bearing in mind the houses were occupied.

Jay

 

[Jay Sparks]

yeah well they`v got no business disconnecting safety electrical connections....christ its even tagged as such....

I know this and thats why I used to invoice the company I worked for and they would inturn, invoice the client (Waites, Bullocks etc). I would put down an hour for reconnecting bonding and aslo charge them for any other snags I had to put right.

Jay

 

[highspark]

Every rewire I have done recentley has had a concrete lower flour or a percentage of concrete floor this is an absolute pain in the backside and again adds time to a rewire

 

[Jay Sparks]

Well my house like most council houses, is red brick, concrete floors down stairs and odviousley floorboards up stairs and falling to bits. The last rewire I did, had wooden floor boards up and down stairs but down stairs it also had about 2" of screed covering it. This stuff is like are lass..... Hard as nails.lol. Luckily, they also had a basement with the beams showing, so all my runs for the sockets etc were done without taking up the screed and floorbaords.

Jay


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