Timeguard rcd socket won’t trip with tester. Help please

[dnjr]

There you go, disconnect DW and see what happens. Try L/N to earth, see what you get (with DW connected).

Why would having that plugged in stop them tripping
Not heard of an appliance stopping rcd tripping

 

[dnjr]

Not until you get those sockets to trip

Harsh

 

[Wilko]

Hi - can I ask which model you're testing? I've seen one that had a weird (to me anyway) separation between the 2 earth connections on the device. If you had that problem your tester would probably not attempt the test, so it's a long shot

 

[Midwest]

Why would having that plugged in stop them tripping
Not heard of an appliance stopping rcd tripping

You learn something every day.

PS The appliances may not cause the RCD, not to trip, but it may cause your MFT, to fail to test the RCD.

 

[Octopus]

Yep. IR test done before I started
L/e 180m. L/e 179m. Limited l/n as I couldn’t get to dishwasher or washing machine sockets

Which is why such appliances should ALWAYS have accessible sockets or isolation switches ....

Just saying

 

[dnjr]

Hi - can I ask which model you're testing? I've seen one that had a weird (to me anyway) separation between the 2 earth connections on the device. If you had that problem your tester would probably not attempt the test, so it's a long shot

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Hi Wilkinson
Single is TFA01w
Double is TFA05w
Single only had one earth connection
Double had 2 I think as in a standard double socket
Cheers

 

[dnjr]

You learn something every day.

PS The appliances may not cause the RCD, not to trip, but it may cause your MFT, to fail to test the RCD.

Cheers Midwest. Will check that when I’m back

 

[mhar]

Could you have ir'd the new sockets? Some really don't like it

 

[dnjr]

Could you have ir'd the new sockets? Some really don't like it

No. Ir tested before I started remedials ( did an EICR )

 

[Deleted member 9648]

These are timeguard active ones. I wondered if they need a ‘special ‘test but apparently not

If Timeguard sockets are anything like the timeswitches........stopped using their timeswitches because of constant comeback calls. Not used their RCD sockets but would have no confidence in them at all.

 

[Octopus]

Used the metal clad timeguard RCD sockets for years ..........never a problem...

 

[dnjr]

If Timeguard sockets are anything like the timeswitches........stopped using their timeswitches because of constant comeback calls. Not used their RCD sockets but would have no confidence in them at all.

Oh bugger

 

[Midwest]

I've used quite a few of their RCD sockets/fcu's, never had any problems,

 

[EbolaSideRoom]

I can’t speak for the RCD devices referred to herein but I tend to use Timeguard PIR sensors( for switching lights inside & out) in preference to the doorbell manufacturers models that my wholesalers peddles. Never had any trouble with them.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

We tend to be influenced by bad experiences, I have used a lot of timeguard socket box mounted timers and completely lost confidence in them, loads of faulty ones and wasted time on comeback. Probably not fair to condemn other timeguard products because of that though, I confess I've never fitted a timeguard RCD socket.

 

[dnjr]

Dear All
Installation tncs. Wyler re-wireable fuses
I’ve fitted 2 x timeguard rcd sockets to provide protection for extension leads going outside but neither will trip with my tester. Trip fine on test button
Also trip when I do earth loop test ( fluke tester)
Socket tester says it’s all ok
Zs before I changed to rcd socket was 0.45
Doesn’t trip on ramp test
Ze 0.21
What the hell am I missing

Advise appreciated
Cheers

Dear All
Thanks for everyoned

Dear All
Installation tncs. Wyler re-wireable fuses
I’ve fitted 2 x timeguard rcd sockets to provide protection for extension leads going outside but neither will trip with my tester. Trip fine on test button
Also trip when I do earth loop test ( fluke tester)
Socket tester says it’s all ok
Zs before I changed to rcd socket was 0.45
Doesn’t trip on ramp test
Ze 0.21
What the hell am I missing

Advise appreciated
Cheers

Dear All
Prize goes to Midwest
It was load for some reason. Unplug everything and all’s well
Nothing in particular stopped the test but the combination did. Not sure I get it but I’m testing the installation so all good
Can I have a pint now westward ??

 

[telectrix]

had a timeguard outside RCD double socket fitted here by me 8 years ago. never a problem and tests consistently every 6 months.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Anyone else had problems with these? Gone back to Grasslin now. One job I did recently with two of these Timeguard units controlling towel rails had to replace both within 3 months due to unreliable operation.

 

[Midwest]

Anyone else had problems with these? Gone back to Grasslin now. One job I did recently with two of these Timeguard units controlling towel rails had to replace both within 3 months due to unreliable operation.

If I might say, that looks very passé. You should be installing these nowadays

 

[ipf]

I've used quite a few of their RCD sockets/fcu's, never had any problems,

I use them all the time for factory replacements... good stuff.
On the other hand, someone put some Chint equivalents in a while back and they are rubbish. They even seem like the wrong back boxes, so badly fitting.