Train 4 trade skills feedback

[wanabe sparky]

I am looking for feedback on train4tradeskills,i am really worried i have been ripped off,i was recently made redundant after 15 years in retail management and decided to follow my dream of becoming an electrician,i am extremely hard working but worry that its just not possible to learn this material at home from a book,any advice help would be greatly appreciated on how i can progresss in the industry,this course has cost me 6k that i cant afford to loose!

 

[patricklondon]

in general reviews are quite mixed. people often post on here that while the practicle side can be quite good getting a response from the admin side can be a mare. if you are not commited yet i would strongly recommend going to your local college and doing it that way instead as its given far greater respect in the industry ie those that do the employing. possibly work as an electricians labourer or mate for now or whatever else to earn a living.
welcome to the forum though and best of luck

 

[wanabe sparky]

in general reviews are quite mixed. people often post on here that while the practicle side can be quite good getting a response from the admin side can be a mare. if you are not commited yet i would strongly recommend going to your local college and doing it that way instead as its given far greater respect in the industry ie those that do the employing. possibly work as an electricians labourer or mate for now or whatever else to earn a living.
welcome to the forum though and best of luck

thanks for the advice

 

[GazBraz]

Hi, i started the course back in september, so havn't yet got to the Practical training, but i am finding the course literature very good and easy to follow, as you progress you get more info, you have back up from the tutors, and there is always the internet if you dont understand anything. I too am moving out of retail for this, but its working fine both working and training, having said that you do need to have support from home, and be willing to give up some TV. Go for it its a lot of money to waste if you don't. Good luck

 

[CRAGS]

I to looked into these courses as a fast track way into electrical work but I found the advisor far to pushy into trying to get me sign up. So I have gone along the college route may take longer but I find it easier someone explaining it in a classroom and it is cheaper.

 

[luke10men]

ive also just signed up for this course. always been in the building trade, now 26 and realised i needed a proper trade.
doing the full scope course for 2 years. been doing t a month, only thing i wish i would have researched was getting an apprentership first. didnt know i needed 2 years hands on experience, my fault for nor not doing my research i suppose. sent 20 letters out to local sparkys no joy tho, a few said theyd keep my details on record so fingers crossed. wasnt expecting anything from those letters with the way things are in general at the moment with the ressesion.
Anyone else doing this course? be great to get your fedback.
Luke

 

[NickS]

Hi there, I started Train4TradeSkills in November, it's great being able to do things at your own pace and not being told stupid formulae to use to calc things. That was when I tried the BS7671 Elctrotecnical course at college, 2 days a week for 2 years, really intense, a load of people dropped out because it was too technical. Any way like I said T4TS is much better, more practical and enjoyable, but I guess I'm one the lucky one's because I have the backing of parents to 'foot' the £110 per month bill...... so I cannot..... must not FAIL!
I just finished TMA05 by the way... and am doing well. I don't know about anyone else who've done courses like this, but I can't help looking at other peoples' property (including my own), and want to have a 'tinker around'.

Nick S.

 

[sparky1502]

I started looking at the intensive courses but went done the college route its alot more laid back and more time to learn things....

 

[brs73]

my brother signed up for these shysters.
he s signing on, aint worked for a year or two, aint got a pot to **** in.
they signed him up for a loan(about 3 grand if i remember right) that he has no chance of repaying, just so the salesman could pocket his hundred quid. i dont have a clue how he could qualify for this amount of credit, my brother aint too bright by the way but the salesman fed him some old yarn about the social paying for the lot. i really wish i could use more swear words about them. but anyway if you can afford to pay them then its up to you but dont get mugged off. i hope theres plenty of people who have done their courses and are graftin now, good luck to you. oh and it's mostly an online course and he aint got a computer!!!

 

[m4tty]

^^^ what he says is total truth ^^^^ dont get involved with these. They will be exposed soon.... Dont worry about that.

 

[NickS]

I haven't got a computer but I go to M&D's for the weekend to do my TMA's, and ~I also use the library----- which is free for internet use-- ?**&!"*&?.

The 3 grand you're talking about is 4 grand, paid monthly -- no interest accrued.

I'm telling you guy's it's gonna be worth it!


Oh and just in case you didn't know I'm Bipolar, with additional anxiety and depression diorders. So this suits me. I don't have to be around other people which is a nightmare for me. I am on medication which keeps me stable, and my goal is to get off these... and be my own boss. I think that satisfaction in this field/job will accomplish this.

Anyway, enough blabberring.

signing off

Nick

 

[steve76]

I'm doing the Electricians course with T4TS and am currently on module 13. I've got pretty good marks so far and am really enjoying the course but there's a few things I'd like to say

1. When I reached module 9 or 10 I was able to book my 1st and 2nd practical weeks and was well happy. It was around October, 2 months after starting my course but only 1 month's payment had been taken. Thing is (and what they didn't tell me at the start) you need to prove to T4TS that you've paid for 3 months before you can arrange practical training!!! - I argued with them but they refused to budge because once you've commited to Barclays Finance, they have no communication with T4TS so you have to prove to T4TS you've been paying. So I had to wait till November came round, ask for statements from Barclays and then fax them over. Eventually they agreed I had paid for the course (how trash is it that I had to prove to them that I'd been paying for the course???!) but then the next surprise.....
2. Don't expect to get into the courses any time soon!! I waited from November till January 18th for my first practical week and they can't fit my second week in till March 1st!! They are supposed to be consecutive weeks aren't they? I still sit here now without any information, no post, no address of the training centre, no nothing about the place or training and I go there next week..... Fingers crossed eh? And what about the accomodation? bit late now don't you think? Why couldn't they confirm everything earlier?

I'd just like to know how intense these practical weeks are? has anyone actually been on one yet? I'm a bit worried I may of forgot what I learnt back in August from these books and I'm gonna look a prize plank

Can you help?

 

[CARL1964]

OK,
I started with these a few months ago, as although trained as a sparks about 30 years ago, I found I needed to re-certify / qualify. I have had no problems with these guys at all. The practical weeks are fine, first week was really easy, just getting you used to the system, run lighting circuits and ring mains etc, basic. they also start the preparation for your second week, which is more intense but still nothing to worry about, if you have read your course material and done your assignments properly then you will have no problems at all. It is however worth reading your course notes / material again before you go to the training centre, revision is not hard and will refresh your mind before you go in.
Where are you? if you go to this site Apprenticeships & Adult Courses in Gas, Plumbing and Electrics you will be able to see which centre is nearest to you and so can contact them if you have any problems, they will also have details of accommodation you can use if you are stuck.

Hope this helps, I think you get what you want from thee guys, nobody is going to give you a free ride in this world, 'if you don't take the time to ask you will never get to know'

Cheers
Carl

 

[robsparky1975]

Hi there, I started Train4TradeSkills in November, it's great being able to do things at your own pace and not being told stupid formulae to use to calc things. That was when I tried the BS7671 Elctrotecnical course at college, 2 days a week for 2 years, really intense, a load of people dropped out because it was too technical. Any way like I said T4TS is much better, more practical and enjoyable, but I guess I'm one the lucky one's because I have the backing of parents to 'foot' the £110 per month bill...... so I cannot..... must not FAIL!
I just finished TMA05 by the way... and am doing well. I don't know about anyone else who've done courses like this, but I can't help looking at other peoples' property (including my own), and want to have a 'tinker around'.

Nick S.

check out what brs73 quoted,dont know why u gave up the college though,tutors want to help,i was crap at science/maths but passed it all 2391 etc when sparks doing it 4 30 years said i had no chance proved them wrong,if you want it bad enough you will get it,what they are charging is extortionate.

 

[steve76]

Thanks Carl, you've settled the old nerves a bit there and yeah your right - you don't get 'oat for Nowt!!
I know I'll be the rookie in the practical weeks cause I've got no experience but I'm determined so sod it!
Cheers Carl
Steve

 

[Steve_P]

I really didn't like this lot, not sure what it was, wasn't too sure about the other 2 big trainers either, ended up with a company based in Sussex with a training centre near Southampton. A mate went there and raved about them, proof of the pud and all that is that he's got loads of work on some 18 months later.

 

[CARL1964]

Thanks Carl, you've settled the old nerves a bit there and yeah your right - you don't get 'oat for Nowt!!
I know I'll be the rookie in the practical weeks cause I've got no experience but I'm determined so sod it!
Cheers Carl
Steve

90% of the guys on the first week had no experience at all, most never even handled cable before and even a couple who swore they had never used hand tools! the instructors are there to help and they do help. remember the old addage 'IF IN DOUBT ASK' same goes for this forum in general, there are loads of fells on here who will help you out.
Just go and enjoy it, and if it's the Featherstone centre, you certainly will. The butty wagon is great.

Carl

PS you should have negotiated the price with the guy who came to interview you, they are like any other business, always able to offer a discount if you sign now etc.

C

 

[m4tty]

What TMA are you on mate ??

 

[CARL1964]

What TMA are you on mate ??

13, but thats only because I've been rather busy the last few weeks, so haven't had the time to study properly.

 

[NickS]

Wow... what a mixed bag of replies here!!!
I know some people might not have a computer, but surely you must be able to get access somewhere? like the library?

I'm really loving this course, although I must say that the course notes are getting a bit hazy in their wording, but you just have to see throgh that anyway.

I've now completed TMA 07, any questions raised to T4TS tutor gets a response quickly every time, or I can phone if I need more detail, like for instance, the scenary CD. There was a discrepency in calculating R2+R2 ..... they knew of this problem, but I think that it's a test also, just to make sure you're on the ball.

Anyhow like I said, I am really loving this, and I'm not panicky or anxious.... which is a very good thing!

NickS

Ps. excuse the delay's in posting.

 

[TFoster]

It is completely impossible to complete this course if you hold a full time job. I signed upto this at a cost of £135 after speaking to a very convincing con-artist of a salesman. He assured me I could complete the course without taking any time from work, this I now know is not possible as it is necessary to attend the practical sessions. The tutors are not avaialble to speak as I was told they would be, after 6pm I cannot get hold of anyone, when I managed to speak to someone they simply advised me to read the books! That was not helpful at all. I have now resorted to putting this in the hands of a solicitor after numerous attempts at trying to cancel. Avoid this course at all costs, look at every other option first. Please let me know if anyone has had a similar experience.

 

[manda]

What did you sign up to for £135? The sales guy should have told you about the practical sessions. I've never found a problem getting hold of the tutors but after 6pm I'd imagine they've clocked off. I know there are people working full time and studying the course, I assume they must take the time off for the training as holidays, unless they have an understanding employer. How long ago did you sign up?

 

[Michael Thomas]

i am also looking at undertaking a course with this company any more info would be appreciated

 

[Paul Page]

hi all i am currently on the full scope electrical course i am at module 16 at present just about to start mod17 no practical weeks as of yet due to waiting for my lender to send me a copy of my account i have found the training very good so far and have been able to contact tutors at any time via email wich is replied to very quickly i to was a bit concerned at first by some negative stuff on the internet but you get out what you put in i think if train4trade was in anyway dodgy they would of been shut down keep studying hard and the goals will come

 

[bry]

I also signed up with T4TS and then decided to cancel as I believe the rep had deliberately misled me when i asked is the assignment with a local firm guarenteed after completing the online tutoring ,he said yes,but if you look at the documents it states its your responsibility entirely to find the hands on experience and then goes on to say that if all your attempts fail then they MAY be able to direct you to someone that can..which in itself means nothing,they seem to have covered all the legal aspects,i became suspicious after he told me to write to 3 local firms to ask if they will employ me for experience,after the signing and payment of £100 was complete,I cant belive anybody would want to pay and train you to be there competitor.and I belive the £100 would be his commission,I think they are just another business try to recruit as many as possible,I also think there literiture is a bit dated.

 

[Johnuk]

i read about these courses you still need site work to pass a nvq 3 to become a electricain

 

[LesT]

Hi

I'm currently on the full scope course with these guys and fitting in the learning around my job. I am due for the first lot of practical training, and when I was sold the course I was led to believe that practical training sessions were continuously run making it easy for me to book. I called them last week to book to be told that they didn't have any dates available and I would have to call back on the 2/4/11 when more dates are release, I had to explain to the woman that I can only do a certain set of dates but was told that she couldn't do anything for me, and wouldn't even put me through to speak to someone in the booking dept.

I was wondering if anybody else who is currently on this course has experienced anything like this.

 

[JBr]

I too have to say that I am very disappointed with the firm and the service and agree that it is will take me years to complete the domestic course fitting it around my current job. This is nothing against the principle of the product or the material (which I am sure will work well for others), but more about the misleading information given to me by the salesperson and the admin/support staff, which in turn meant that the product was not suitable for me.

I completed Module 11 in mid-Feb. When I finally proved that I was up to date with my payments I was told to call back after the 15th of April, but I would be looking at being able to booked in for some time in June (4 months after finishing the relevant modules!!!).
Then I established that I could only do the electrical practical sessions in Southampton, Worcester or Leeds... one of the selling points was that I was told I would be able to do this in Luton (reasonably convenient for North London)... but then 'the salesperson is not expected to know that this can't be done in Luton' the understanding client service person told me.
I thought at least my £65 a day will cover the travel and accom, before I was told it was only £30... how many more lies did this salesman tell me?

I apprecaite that the qualifcation requires work but through your initial meeting you expect to be told all that would be required of you. I was told that to be qualified as a domestic installer I had to do 2 weeks practical and this would take me about a year, this was after I had voiced my concern about working this around my work life.

At the end of the day I feel lied to and cheated by the person who sold me this product. I will be looking to pursue them on the grounds of mis-selling the product, the banks can get strung up over mis-selling so surely companies such as this can too!

 

[chris3330]

the worst part of all of this is that you've all been ripped off by a company who will tell you anything to get you to sign on the dotted line and part with your thousands, i bet you were told of the riches to be earned being an electrician, all of the work available etc.
the truth is that there isnt much work out there at the moment and wont be for some time and your new and well earned qualifications wont be respected by any decent employers who would prefer someone timeserved/nvq3/jib approved etc. etc. that is unless you are willing to work £7/8 per hour which most of you will end up getting offered until you have some decent on site experience.
but i bet you've all been told of further riches setting up on your own, how many people are doing these courses or have done/ going to do them? aren't the majority of these people thinking the same thing.
sparks are ten a penny, there is no shortage of good experience
very very few earn the sort of money t4ts will have told you about.
theres alot of competition and not much work.

keep your money and get into banking

 

[Jenzi]

What did you sign up to for £135? The sales guy should have told you about the practical sessions. I've never found a problem getting hold of the tutors but after 6pm I'd imagine they've clocked off. I know there are people working full time and studying the course, I assume they must take the time off for the training as holidays, unless they have an understanding employer. How long ago did you sign up?

Hi Manda, ive just joined this site, and am as well training thru t4ts. R u still doing this course? Ive heard a lot of negative feed back from other users on this site. If u r or have completed the course with T4TS would be nice to hear how u have got on.
Jenni

 

[LiiamBRo]

I too have to say that I am very disappointed with the firm and the service and agree that it is will take me years to complete the domestic course fitting it around my current job. This is nothing against the principle of the product or the material (which I am sure will work well for others), but more about the misleading information given to me by the salesperson and the admin/support staff, which in turn meant that the product was not suitable for me.

I completed Module 11 in mid-Feb. When I finally proved that I was up to date with my payments I was told to call back after the 15th of April, but I would be looking at being able to booked in for some time in June (4 months after finishing the relevant modules!!!).
Then I established that I could only do the electrical practical sessions in Southampton, Worcester or Leeds... one of the selling points was that I was told I would be able to do this in Luton (reasonably convenient for North London)... but then 'the salesperson is not expected to know that this can't be done in Luton' the understanding client service person told me.
I thought at least my £65 a day will cover the travel and accom, before I was told it was only £30... how many more lies did this salesman tell me?

I apprecaite that the qualifcation requires work but through your initial meeting you expect to be told all that would be required of you. I was told that to be qualified as a domestic installer I had to do 2 weeks practical and this would take me about a year, this was after I had voiced my concern about working this around my work life.

At the end of the day I feel lied to and cheated by the person who sold me this product. I will be looking to pursue them on the grounds of mis-selling the product, the banks can get strung up over mis-selling so surely companies such as this can too!

So does that mean that you can NOT actually do the course in Luton? I've got someone from T4TS coming too my house tomorrow and i was told that the course would be held in luton. Was also told all the accomodation would be paid for by them. I received a phone call on the friday saying id been accepted following the initial interview which was on the thursday which seems FAR to quick!! Especialy as my grades are very poor (1 GCSE at grade C) and the fact i have a DR10 on my driving licence & dont get my licence back until October this year... which i expected to pull me down a bit..

Im very weary after all of this and all the stuff that came up BEFORE id even finished spelling it on google!! that says it all realy...

Has anybody fully completed the course and found a job so far? Would really like to know more before i sign the contents of my bank account away!

 

[Des 56]

You have doubts,so possibly now is the wrong time to outlay a substantial amount of money with those doubts still with you

An electrician is a good and satisfying trade,but the industry, no different to the rest of the economy, is in bad shape at the moment and will take at least a few years to come good

Rather than paying a lot of money for a short period course,perhaps a college based route whilst trying to get related, on the job employment, may be a better alternative

When the longer college route is complete,hopefully, the industry will be on a better footing and your new qualifications stand a better chance of gaining employment against the very intense competition you will face which will include very experienced sparks out of work as a result of todays economic climate

 

[LiiamBRo]

ive definitely got a job as soon as i start the course and as soon as i finish the course hes going to keep me on and give me a company van, hes also paying half of the fees so im not overly worried about the money. ive now started the course anyhow, and everything checks out by my employer and a few other firms ive contacted regarding it so all seems good!

 

[LewH]

It is completely impossible to complete this course if you hold a full time job. I signed upto this at a cost of £135 after speaking to a very convincing con-artist of a salesman. He assured me I could complete the course without taking any time from work, this I now know is not possible as it is necessary to attend the practical sessions. The tutors are not avaialble to speak as I was told they would be, after 6pm I cannot get hold of anyone, when I managed to speak to someone they simply advised me to read the books! That was not helpful at all. I have now resorted to putting this in the hands of a solicitor after numerous attempts at trying to cancel. Avoid this course at all costs, look at every other option first. Please let me know if anyone has had a similar experience.

Im in the same position. A couple of days ago i called up to cancel because i felt the course was nothing like the salesman made it out to be. Then they told me that he had signed me up for a '£4000' Fixed loan. Which he never said to me and me being only 20 working in a supermarket knows full well i cannot afford that! The salesman told me he was my tutor and he would come to my house for a minimum of 8hours a week to go through it all with me. Then when i rang the Student Helpline they told me hes just a salesman and i wont see him again! So he sold me the course by LYING and was very forceful on me signing things and in a way id class that as BULLYING! So i Definatly do not recommend the course. You are basically paying £4000 for a couple of books to teach yourself! Where as you can teach yourself for F*** all on youtube.

 

[leeboi1991]

The course seems to offer very little support, I was told i could contact my tutor by a free number when its 0845 which was a lie. i feel i have been slighlty ripped off and dont see how i could get the best qualifications and experience from this course. does anyone know of anyway i could cancel this course without having to pay the 135 a month please email me [email protected]

 

[04moird]

i have just had my visit from the college rep (salesman) he seemed very ----- and really seemed to to good to be true, he just seemed like he wanted me to get on the course and pay the total amount of £5000 or £33 a week over 24 months to become qualified in plumbing, electrics and renewable energy i have already reserved my plumbing level 1 and 2 from my local college that this sails men has basically said this was a waist of time and have gained nothing from it, if anyone has any feed back on the trade 4 skills college or anyone thas completed the course pleas contact me valconaventon@gmail.com

 

[NickS]

The course seems to offer very little support, I was told i could contact my tutor by a free number when its 0845 which was a lie. i feel i have been slighlty ripped off and dont see how i could get the best qualifications and experience from this course. does anyone know of anyway i could cancel this course without having to pay the 135 a month please email me [email protected]

Actually I'm on the course with T4TS, I'm finding it very good. I've been 'training' for the past 2 years, I'm now qualified as Full-Scope Domestic Installer, the support that I have been getting from my tutor has been good also. I see there's a lot of disgruntled people out there because of bad communication, in a way I do agree with that. T4TS isn't the best outfit out there for sure, and I sometimes think I could've gone down the college route, but for me it works out fine, I'm under no pressure to complete the course, but I know that I will. I'm currently under the primary care team for my manic episodes and depression, so like I said it works for me. At the end of the day I feel satisfied with what's going on in my life this far. No doubt at some point I will probably have some sort of run-in with T4TS, I think that's unavoidable, there's so many testimonials about it all.
Fortunately for me I have the great support from my parents financially and my fiancée to keep my arse kicked.

 

[tnicol]

Hi to all, I am currently going through some difficulties with train for trade skills regarding cancellation of an electrical course. Is there anyone else in the same position who is willing to get in contact?

 

[Skywalker28]

Hi to all, I am currently going through some difficulties with train for trade skills regarding cancellation of an electrical course. Is there anyone else in the same position who is willing to get in contact?

Hello,

I have made an official complaint about T4TS to the financial ombudsmen service, I had signed this so called credit agreement form for the electrical and heating course on the basis that I will only pay the £100 once I have a job and can cancel this agreement. After 5 days I called up the salesman and told him that I want to cancel. After 1 month i started getting threatening letters by career development finance company for the payment of £3950. They obviously do not function like a proper educational provider as they have employed sales person who specialising in conning people. I would suggesting seeking legal help from the citizens advice bureau.

hope it helps, if it doesn't i would seek help from Watchdog

 

[Skywalker28]

Im in the same position. A couple of days ago i called up to cancel because i felt the course was nothing like the salesman made it out to be. Then they told me that he had signed me up for a '£4000' Fixed loan. Which he never said to me and me being only 20 working in a supermarket knows full well i cannot afford that! The salesman told me he was my tutor and he would come to my house for a minimum of 8hours a week to go through it all with me. Then when i rang the Student Helpline they told me hes just a salesman and i wont see him again! So he sold me the course by LYING and was very forceful on me signing things and in a way id class that as BULLYING! So i Definatly do not recommend the course. You are basically paying £4000 for a couple of books to teach yourself! Where as you can teach yourself for F*** all on youtube.

Hello

did you have any luck cancelling this course? I haven't paid a penny for this course as I had thought that I had cancelled the agreement. T4TS and their associated companies are like a bunch of pack wolves looking for people to scam and force into signing their agreement.

If I have to pay them because of their harrassment, I will definitely sue them in court

 

[mljc71]

hi all- based in luton? hamilton house? cdf- same building? STAY AWAY- A PART OF SKILLSTRAIN! i'm trying to get back £2000

 

[Dan]

Just bumping this to bring all contributors to the attention of all the threads we have on our forums about Train 4 Trade Skills.

There have been A LOT of people who feel they have been missold courses by Train 4 Trade Skills. Many taking legal action.

Please see this for electrical course threads on our sparky forum: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t..._cp.r_qf.&fp=37fc7606ff53045&biw=1500&bih=958
This for plumbing course threads on our plumbing forum: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t..._cp.r_qf.&fp=37fc7606ff53045&biw=1500&bih=958

 

[chrissiebaker]

18 months On!

In summary my life has changed completely and my business seriously grown!

However:
My view of T4TS is they were CRAP!
The practical training & knowledge I received at Worcester brilliant!

But before I finally write off T4TS - actually do forget them!

I did my 2391 at Able skills dartfrod - tutor - crap!
I relied on my I&T revision from Worcester and passed first time.

So for my forget T4TS and contact Worcester directly.

 

[t4ts hater]

You have been ripped off my friend

 

[t4ts hater]

good luck with that then

 

[t4ts hater]

you poor *removed*

 

[t4ts hater]

Hi to all, I am currently going through some difficulties with train for trade skills regarding cancellation of an electrical course. Is there anyone else in the same position who is willing to get in contact?

same here.

 

[t4ts hater]

hi all- based in luton? hamilton house? cdf- same building? STAY AWAY- A PART OF SKILLSTRAIN! i'm trying to get back £2000

good luck with that and tell me if you have got your money back if so my address is smuzzels2 at hotmail dot com don't ask about the name it's just that some one can't say somerfield right

 

[Onthecase]

Hi everyone,
I am planning to start a petition of some sort to present to my MP firstly and then to consumer tv/radio programmes to try to force train4tradeskills/barclays to acknowledge the have made mistakes. For 3 years I have been fighting to on my sons behalf to cancel the agreement for a electrician course he enrolled on. Too many problems to go into now but I have been down every advised route, finacial ombudsman, trading standards etc etc, with no luck, I have even been to my MP who wrote to Barclays partner finance managing director, who replied with excuses for their behaviour. Obviously they have everything tied up legally which allows them to get away with porr practice. My MP has suggested "bad publicity" and if we all group together we stand more cance of success.
I would be willing to collect via post/email all our complaints and present them firstly to my MP and the to a tv/radio consumer programme. I will post my email address if there is enough interest as I cant do this alone, I need names and stories. If anybody can think of a better plan please let me know.

 

[tnicol]

Hi, just tried to PM you but it seems I have not completed enough posts to be able to do so. I am 100% in support of your intentions, and I am willing to do anything I can to help. I urge everyone else on this forum with similar problems to help to.
Can you try PM me with your email address and I will send you my situation with T4TS.