Will the new eaton mcbs fit the old eaton boards?

[HappyHippyDad]

As in the title.
I have an old eaton board. Will new the new eatons fit?

Cheers guys.

 

[Midwest]

If I recall, the Eaton MCB's were compatible with the old MEM CU's, so think you should be ok.

What are you adding, seems like you have all your eggs in one basket there?

 

[HappyHippyDad]

If I recall, the Eaton MCB's were compatible with the old MEM CU's, so think you should be ok.

What are you adding, seems like you have all your eggs in one basket there?

I just need to change one of them for a 20a.
Just rejigging things temporarily for a friend.

 

[Midwest]

I just need to change one of them for a 20a.
Just rejigging things temporarily for a friend.

I’ve used an Eaton mcb in Memera 2000 CU, described as compatible by Eaton.

 

[davesparks]

That's a memera 2000 board by the looks of it so either memera 2000 mcbs or memshield 2 mcbs will fit.

 

[westward10]

Pretty sure the new Eaton devices are not compatible.

 

[davesparks]

Pretty sure the new Eaton devices are not compatible.

It's pretty unlikely with Eaton, they do like to make things incompatible, like the whole mem2/mem3 thing

 

[Midwest]

I might be wrong of course, but I enquired with Eaton technical about their mcb’s in a Memera 2000, as Eaton acquired MEM brand (2003), and it’s compatibility.

They confirmed using one of their mcbs (this was 2017) in a Memera 2000 was okay. I actually fitted one of their field kits, to make it an RCBO.

Not sure you can purchase an MEM mcb now, unless it’s from eBay or similar. Then you go down the route, is the thing safe to use.

 

[westward10]

The new Eaton devices don't have field kits, they come as a complete rcbo unit.

 

[Midwest]

The new Eaton devices don't have field kits, they come as a complete rcbo unit.

They didn’t then for a Memera 2000 CU.
As said, I was just offering my experience back then. But I fitted an Eaton mcb, in Memera 2000 CU, which they approved as compatible.

Flippin heck! Only way to find out, is ask Eaton themselves.

 

[westward10]

Here is a Memshield 2 next to a new Eaton, it isn't going to fit.

 

[Midwest]

Not sure @happyhippydad is after an RCBO?

 

[westward10]

Makes no difference I couldn't find an mcb but the fit is the same.

 

[Midwest]

Makes no difference I couldn't find an mcb but the fit is the same.

Wot about this one?

178027 & ALB321 | Eaton Memera ALB MCB, 1P, 32A Curve B, 6 kA Breaking Capacity | RS

uk.rs-online.com

 

[westward10]

That will fit but they aren't actually the new Eaton style, but yes that will fit.

 

[davesparks]

Wot about this one?

178027 & ALB321 | Eaton Memera ALB MCB, 1P, 32A Curve B, 6 kA Breaking Capacity | RS

uk.rs-online.com

That's a memera 2000 mcb that will fit, but it is not a new Eaton mcb.

The confusion here is that people are talking about Eaton mcbs as if they are one particular model of mcb, which they are not, they bought out MEM and produce mem2 and mem3 mcbs.

 

[Midwest]

That will fit but they aren't actually the new Eaton style, but yes that will fit.

That's a memera 2000 mcb that will fit, but it is not a new Eaton mcb.

The confusion here is that people are talking about Eaton mcbs as if they are one particular model of mcb, which they are not, they bought out MEM and produce mem2 and mem3 mcbs.

You guys, honestly sometimes.

It says Eaton on the front of it. MEM ceased to be in 2003. That’s what I fitted in 2017, in an existing Memera 2000 CU, by the suggestion of Eaton. You can’t buy MEM mcb, unless you go flea bay.

Not wishing to gloat etc.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Thanks for all the replies guys. it doesn't look like the new eatons fit the board I am working with so it looks like ebay!

 

[davesparks]

Thanks for all the replies guys. it doesn't look like the new eatons fit the board I am working with so it looks like ebay!

As far as I know Eaton are still making the mcbs for that board, along with the RCBO conversion pods. But they are expensive.

What size mcb are you looking for?

 

[Midwest]

As far as I know Eaton are still making the mcbs for that board, along with the RCBO conversion pods. But they are expensive.

What size mcb are you looking for?

I give up.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. it doesn't look like the new eatons fit the board I am working with so it looks like ebay!

Have you not read any of my posts?

 

[westward10]

Some confusion here. New style Eaton devices as in my pic do not fit that board.

 

[davesparks]

I give up.

The question asked in the OP was whether or not the new Eaton mcbs fit, they do not. The new, or current, range of Eaton mcbs are the memshield3 type which do not fit.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I give up.
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Have you not read any of my posts?

I have Midwest and you are one of the posters I listen to. However, both Westward and DS have said they do not fit. They both have a lot of knowledge in this area so I am inclined to think they don't fit.
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As far as I know Eaton are still making the mcbs for that board, along with the RCBO conversion pods. But they are expensive.

What size mcb are you looking for?

I'm looking for a 20a.
Does that mean Eaton are making both types of MCB still? The ones withn the grey ETN written on them and also the blue?

 

[Midwest]

The Eaton ALB mcb I fitted to a Memera CU was new in 2017, when I installed, on the advice from Eaton.

It had EaToN written in black across it. The new new Eaton EAD mcb has EaToN written in blue across. Guess cos they're manufactured by Eaton

I see that my wholesaler stocks them as well as some others Eaton mcb They all look like they have a similar din rail mounting to me.

But I guess the only way to find out which is compatible, is ring Eaton tech and ask them.
Think you'll be okay @happyhippydad, I see the ALB is still available as new & unused from most stockists.

That past away Sunday afternoon, didn't it.

 

[westward10]

Most will be used/second hand now but it seems RS have some.

ALB201 | Eaton 20A 1 Pole Type B Miniature Circuit Breaker Memera ALB | RS Components

uk.rs-online.com

 

[davesparks]

I'm looking for a 20a.

Most will be used/second hand now but it seems RS have some.

ALB201 | Eaton 20A 1 Pole Type B Miniature Circuit Breaker Memera ALB | RS Components

uk.rs-online.com

RS selling something for less than £50? This can't be true!

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Most will be used/second hand now but it seems RS have some.

ALB201 | Eaton 20A 1 Pole Type B Miniature Circuit Breaker Memera ALB | RS Components

uk.rs-online.com

That's the one Westward, many thanks.

 

[Midwest]

Ummmph, he got that from my link

 

[westward10]

Yours was 32A

 

[Midwest]

Splitting hairs now ?

 

[DT1991]

Some will be branded Bill/Talisman also.

These are 3 I have just to compare in a photo.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Memera 2000 CU? This might be helpful, it's the response I got from eaton's tech support when enquiring after RCBOs for said board earlier in the year:

Dear PRETTY MOUTH,

I hope this email finds you in good health.
Yes, you can have RCBO in Memera 2000 consumer unit.
You need to use memshield 2 range MCB + MR30 pod.
See attached document.

 

[Midwest]

Dooh, no one listens to me, I’ve already mentioned the field kit. I need to improve my avatar. Incidentally, op doesn’t need an RCBO.

 

[westward10]

We listened to you. Hippy asked if the new Eaton devices fit, they don't.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Dooh, no one listens to me, I’ve already mentioned the field kit. I need to improve my avatar. Incidentally, op doesn’t need an RCBO.

We do listen to you mate, all that stuff you said, what was it again?

I know, but I thought I'd include it anyway as it was from the horse's mouth and while not directly answering OP's Q, it's sort of relevant, probably

 

[MJPD29]

New Eaton will not fit. Old ones still available as still being made new

 

[Midwest]

its okay, I don't even listen to myself. Well, only when I think I'm wright. Thats not often.