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Why in reference to this thread?It's about time the word accessible was properly defined in our glorious big book. ...
A kick board is easily removed (unlike an integrated appliance). It can be removed in seconds. I'd call that very accessible.Simply because people are advocating concealing sockets behind built on appliances, or loose behind kick boards.
Simply because people are advocating concealing sockets behind built on appliances, or loose behind kick boards.
Isn't that the bad plumbers job?Kickboards are old school, flooding kitchens is the way forward......
Sausage fingers its late floating, ana raised no kick boards required and they look like rubbish.Isn't that the bad plumbers job?
Seen a high end kitchen nearly totally replaced due to a leak
Trouble is the UK has 4 sets of building regs. And seem's like even the guides on them can't give a straight answer.To add to the clouds in this thread,sockets are very often sited in adjacent cupboards
We can read the Iee Building regs guide and 5.2.2 of that guide specifically mentions not putting sockets in cupboards
They make the statement then use the word "should" be mounted on the fabric of the building and not in kitchen cupboards
If the intention is use only the fabric of the building why didn't they use the word "must"!
The Iee can sometimes speak with forked tongue
I don't mind kickboard's, do like floating kitchens though, they seem to be becoming more the norm in the high end ones.Sausage fingers its late floating, ana raised no kick boards required and they look like rubbish.
A kick board is easily removed (unlike an integrated appliance). It can be removed in seconds. I'd call that very accessible.
Is fitting a click flow connector to a bit of floating T&E really acceptable (post #8). I wouldn't be too happy with it ... flex outlet plate a better job, but neither are MF rated. But what you have installed needs to be accessible as well anyway??
Bit of pot-kettle-black there.
I have no issue with a socket mounting inside a unit regs/safety wise. I just think it looks terrible and like a botch job, and the kitchen carcass will have taken a bit of butchering works to have it done...especially if a hole is drilled for plug
I have in the past, put a socket behind a built in appliance, with DP switch above (my own kitchen). I wouldn't do so now, simply because if the fuse in the plug top goes, there's a certain amount of dismantling of the kitchen unit & appliance to access said plug top. I know, because I've had to do so in my own kitchen .
I now install with DP above worktop & socket in adjacent cupboard, or as some customers prefer, just socket in adjacent cupboard.
As regards the advice from building regs, about not putting sockets on or in kitchen units, what advice do they give about under cupboard lighting, and Mrs Miggans and her socket for her mixer on her island unit
Ah I'm glad to see Mrs Miggans is back, you haven't done a job for her for a while.
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