Pete's Videos Say it like it is Mate

[Pete999]

 

[Midwest]

He's your doppelganger Pete

 

[Andy78]

Well he's definitely saying it like he sees it..... or been told to see it.

 

[Pete999]

He's your doppelganger Pete

Never saw that coming

 

[Midwest]

Have to say, I wasn't quite comfortable watching it. I sense it's directed towards a very small minority of peoples, but I'm afraid he probably has a bigger audience in mind?

 

[Andy78]

Have to say, I wasn't quite comfortable watching it. I sense it's directed towards a very small minority of peoples, but I'm afraid he probably has a bigger audience in mind?

He is definitely not just talking about the minority alluded to in the video title, however he wants to dress it up.

 

[andyb]

I got confused at the start. He says that the video is for third world criminals flooding into Europe. But it's obviously meant for a different audience entirely. He's addressing more of a home grown audience with a particular world view.

He has a point though, if this third world criminal of fighting age pretending to be a child had only bothered to look at his smart phone that they all seem to have with them, there might of been a better outcome. And that goes for the other 600 plus children (obviously criminals of fighting age pretending to be a children) who have drowned this year.

 

[Pete999]

Having watched this Video again, after reading your comments, and whilst not agreeing with the racist slurs, he does have a point.
Look at that Guy who has been allegedly recruiting ISIS fighters, the UK fed and housed him for years, yes he has finally been imprisoned where the UK taxpayers will feed and house him until he is released early for good behavior, I wonder what the bloke on the video would make of that.
Sharia patrols in the UK. Muslim areas, what next? he might be a bigot and a racist, but he is on the right track.

 

[telectrix]

just thinking about what would happen to us, practising our customs and religion in a muslim country. it's a 2 way street, but these muslims seem to think it's all 1 way.

 

[The Ghost]

Wonder how long before this thread gets closed.

 

[Barry White]

He's your doppelganger Pete

OMG Gets my vote for the comment of 2016. Another coffee spitting moment

 

[telectrix]

in a lot of muslim countries, drinking alcohol = flogging. a woman showing a bit of leg in public = flogging. being homosexual = flogging.

we could adopt a similar stance...

attempting to marry a 12 year old girl = floogging. barbaric, cruel halal slaughter = flogging. grooming young british girls = flogging.

wonder how long it would take then for them to accept our customs or stay where' they prefer their own.

 

[hightower]

in a lot of muslim countries, drinking alcohol = flogging

Yet how many Brits work in countries like Saudi and have a little moonshine operation going in the desert?

 

[Diddy]

Just click bate for those that are into that sort of view. As a human race we seem to have an inability to learn ANYTHING from the mistakes of the previous generation. All I will say is this is how it always starts. Find a soft target group. Find the most extreme "worst" of said soft target group, Play this worst case scenario on endless loop to the "masses". Then sit back and watch the masses grumble that "something needs to be done !" - Divide conquer and control...in all it's guises. Amazing that so many still fall for it tbh.
If we have criminals of any shape or form breaking the law then it's a law and order and policing issue. Now if the authorities don't have the resources to deal with the issue....well that's another matter altogether. We could replicate law and order for ANY of the social services which we have allowed to be cut to the bone in favour of "austerity".

 

[Andy78]

in a lot of muslim countries, drinking alcohol = flogging. a woman showing a bit of leg in public = flogging. being homosexual = flogging.

we could adopt a similar stance...

attempting to marry a 12 year old girl = floogging. barbaric, cruel halal slaughter = flogging. grooming young british girls = flogging.

wonder how long it would take then for them to accept our customs or stay where' they prefer their own.

So in order to dissuade and punish the undesirable customs of other cultures we should employ and embrace the undesirable customs of other cultures ?

 

[Midwest]

Wonder how long before this thread gets closed.

Surprised it's lasted so long. However, the debate is starting, isn't that what a forum is about. And it is Sunday.

 

[Barry White]

So in order to dissuade and punish the undesirable customs of other cultures we should employ and embrace the undesirable customs of other cultures ?

I think the point is "when in Rome do as the Romans do" We have to adhere and respect laws we don't always agree with or are used to in other countries.If not we have to face the consequences (Barbaric or not) But sometimes in the UK we bend over backwards far too much to folk who do not integrate into our society.Some integrate well but some want it both ways. Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits.
The law is a written rule and can be interpreted differently but should not be bent to protect other races or creeds.

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen in my home country.

 

[Midwest]

I bet that poor little lad lying dead on the beach, never had a bad word to say about anyone. He might have done, if he had lived and when he became older. But only if he'd listened to people like the guy in the vid.

''No one is born hating another person because of the colour of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela

Edit, grammer

 

[Andy78]

I think the point is "when in Rome do as the Romans do" We have to adhere and respect laws we don't always agree with or are used to in other countries.If not we have to face the consequences (Barbaric or not) But sometimes in the UK we bend over backwards far too much to folk who do not integrate into our society.Some integrate well but some want it both ways. Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits.
The law is a written rule and can be interpreted differently but should not be bent to protect other races or creeds.

Sometimes I feel like a second class citizen in my home country.

I have never felt like a second class citizen in my own country, nor been given any cause to feel that way. I suppose that's all down to perception.
Can you give me a documented example of any time when a UK court has overruled UK law in favour of a law from another country cited by a defendant to substantiate your claim of "Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits" ?

I'm all for sensible debate, but I find it hard to debate issues based on hearsay and anecdote.

 

[telectrix]

that guy in the video might be a bit extreme, but nowhere near as extreme as the muslim hate preachers. inciting young men(and women) to kill in the name of their god.

 

[Andy78]

that guy in the video might be a bit extreme, but nowhere near as extreme as the muslim hate preachers. inciting young men(and women) to kill in the name of their god.

But the other side of the same coin nonetheless. There are Muslim hate preachers, there are Christian hate preachers. There is cultural intolerance and bigoted ideology on all sides.

 

[Diddy]

that guy in the video might be a bit extreme, but nowhere near as extreme as the muslim hate preachers. inciting young men(and women) to kill in the name of their god.

Oh come on telectrix you can do better than that surely ? That sort of statement I expect from my 4 year old niece when she informs me that although she has been naughty it is not as naughty as X. I can honestly remember trying these arguments against my unimpressed parents....and 40 odd years on they still don't work lol

 

[Diddy]

This video sums up my thoughts almost entirely tbh.

 

[Midwest]

Oh come on telectrix you can do better than that surely ? That sort of statement I expect from my 4 year old niece when she informs me that although she has been naughty it is not as naughty as X. I can honestly remember trying these arguments against my unimpressed parents....and 40 odd years on they still don't work lol

I think Tels referring to the likes of Anjem Choudhary & the like, who IMO are evil people, who twist young peoples minds. But then we have rhetoric from people like Trump proposing to build walls & fences. Listening to that guy in the vid, is quite disturbing. He seems to be referring to criminals, but I'm not quite so sure.

 

[Pat H]

Quite Diddy. Its just policing and crime. Full stop. It applies to everyone. We are just seeing the pedo operations in our youth football clubs coming to light. Is that any less worse? Not Muslims so maybe its ok?

 

[Diddy]

Thats all fine Midwest and i suspect you are correct...but the point I was trying to make is we have plenty of our own scumbags why separate ours from theirs ? I wouldn't say our pedo's are any better or worse than theirs same for any criminal. One point I would make is that I would wholeheartedly agree that the government should use it's resources to ship any convicted criminals out of the country - apparently the legislation is already there but for whatever reason it is rarely used.

 

[Midwest]

One point I would make is that I would wholeheartedly agree that the government should use it's resources to ship any convicted criminals out of the country - apparently the legislation is already there but for whatever reason it is rarely used.

If you lived in a village, would you want your thief back?

 

[Diddy]

If you lived in a village, would you want your thief back?

Nope but I do believe that to be granted permanent residence in a country not of your birth is not a "right" it is more of a privilege which can be revoked. Just the way I see it really. I do think a persons country has or should have ultimate responsibility over their welfare.....weather that means keeping them healthy or keeping them locked up for their own and others safety, I still feel on balance that an offenders country should deal with any fallout and cleanup....if that is the right word Im not sure.

 

[Pete999]

Some of these countries are barbaric, I wonder how the PC brigade would react to being forced to watch a Woman getting stoned for allegedly committing adultery, I was and it'sfar from being a good experience

just thinking about what would happen to us, practising our customs and religion in a muslim country. it's a 2 way street, but these muslims seem to think it's all 1 way.

Absobl--dylutely

 

[The Ghost]

Be interesting to see what you all have to say ten years down the line. Maybe even five.

 

[telectrix]

you mean when we're outnumbered, just like the american indians were 200 years ago?

 

[Pete999]

you mean when we're outnumbered, just like the american indians were 200 years ago?

Yeah well all be on Christian Reservations, with Sharia cavalry butchering us

 

[Andy78]

Yeah well all be on Christian Reservations, with Sharia cavalry butchering us

you mean when we're outnumbered, just like the american indians were 200 years ago?

I'm sorry, but this is not serious debate, this is baseless paranoid fantasy.

 

[The Ghost]

paranoid fantasy

Just because your paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

 

[Andy78]

Just becuase your paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Ha ha, I'll give you that. But by the same token just because you are paranoid, that does not make your fears real.

 

[The Ghost]

Well its hard not to worry when you read the news about what is going on all over the world. I look at my grandchildren and my heart sometimes quails at the thought of what they may have to deal with in the future. I have seen things which have happened around where I lived that have been very worrying. I do feel times have changed since I was young and not really for the better in many ways.

 

[Andy78]

Well its hard not to worry when you read the news about what is going on all over the world. I look at my grandchildren and my heart sometimes quails at the thought of what they may have to deal with in the future. I have seen things which have happened around where I lived that have been very worrying. I do feel times have changed since I was young and not really for the better in many ways.

I can understand that and see how it's sometimes difficult not to fear. But sometimes it seems that fear, for it's own sake, is all we are given to go on.

 

[The Ghost]

fear is all we are given to go on.

Yes well that is so true. And it is something I am extremely resistant to. I can see you are using pure rationality to base your reality on and not assuming the likes of Pat in the video above is the truth without proper empirical evidence. I always go by the words of Solomon who said there is nothing new under the sun. Of course what is going on is a cyclical series of events that stretch into distant antiquity. However in each epoch and recycling of war and such, we are still people and will fear and will speculate and so on. I think some of the comments are very tongue in cheek btw, above.

 

[Andy78]

Yes well that is so true. And it is something I am extremely resistant to. I can see you are using pure rationality to base your reality on and not assuming the likes of Pat in the video above is the truth without proper empirical evidence. I always go by the words of Solomon who said there is nothing new under the sun. Of course what is going on is a cyclical series of events that stretch into distant antiquity. However in each epoch and recycling of war and such, we are still people and will fear and will speculate and so on. I think some of the comments are very tongue in cheek btw, above.

Yeah I did get the sense I had taken the bait ...

You are right I do like to question information, and in this age where we have more information than ever before, there is even more disinformation too.

Yes history is cyclical unfortunately. Those who forget their history are doomed to relive the mistakes of the past. It seems, as a species, we have the memories of goldfish.

 

[The Ghost]

I think I'll just move this thread to off topic... oh hang on I can't. nvm.

 

[Pete999]

I'm sorry, but this is not serious debate, this is baseless paranoid fantasy.

Not been to Luton lately then?

 

[Barry White]

I have never felt like a second class citizen in my own country, nor been given any cause to feel that way. I suppose that's all down to perception.
Can you give me a documented example of any time when a UK court has overruled UK law in favour of a law from another country cited by a defendant to substantiate your claim of "Our laws when it suits and their laws when it suits" ?

I'm all for sensible debate, but I find it hard to debate issues based on hearsay and anecdote.

Police admit they covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism.
Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'

Adil Rashid: Paedophile claimed his Muslim upbringing meant 'he didn't know it was illegal to have sex with a girl of 13' | Daily Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

A 15-year-old refugee who raped a five-year-old boy and said he would "break him into pieces" has been handed a rehabilitation order.
15-year-old refugee who raped boy, 5, handed rehabilitation order - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/15-year-old-refugee-who-9290287

 

[Andy78]

Not been to Luton lately then?

I haven't Pete, have you ?

 

[Andy78]

Police admit they covered up for fear of "giving oxygen" to racism.
Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'

Adil Rashid: Paedophile claimed his Muslim upbringing meant 'he didn't know it was illegal to have sex with a girl of 13' | Daily Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html

A 15-year-old refugee who raped a five-year-old boy and said he would "break him into pieces" has been handed a rehabilitation order.
15-year-old refugee who raped boy, 5, handed rehabilitation order - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/15-year-old-refugee-who-9290287

None of these examples show that UK law have been abandoned in favour of laws from outside the UK. What they demonstrate are failings within our own system to deal with serious cases. So where are the pressure groups telling me that our own justice system needs to be shaken up to tackle problems in society ? That would be a lot more helpful and productive than trying to convince everyone of the lie that all Muslims are paedophiles and rapists.

 

[Pete999]

I haven't Pete, have you ?

Oh Yes

 

[hightower]

Nope but I do believe that to be granted permanent residence in a country not of your birth is not a "right" it is more of a privilege which can be revoked.

So is a driver's licence, but the amount of idiots I see on the road that apparently still have a licence......

 

[Barry White]

None of these examples show that UK law have been abandoned in favour of laws from outside the UK. What they demonstrate are failings within our own system to deal with serious cases. So where are the pressure groups telling me that our own justice system needs to be shaken up to tackle problems in society ? That would be a lot more helpful and productive than trying to convince everyone of the lie that all Muslims are paedophiles and rapists.

So covering up crimes is not against uk law ?

Sorry but I am out

Ps ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT PAEDOFILES OR RAPISTS I HAVE MANY MUSLIM FRIENDS IN FACT WAS WORKING WITH ONE LAST NIGHT. We have had the Jimmy Savile and now the football scandal. Don't think any of them will compare the victims with a lolly pop they find in the street.

 

[telectrix]

Not been to Luton lately then?

you mean Lutonistan?

 

[telectrix]

So covering up crimes is not against uk law ?

Sorry but I am out

Ps ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT PAEDOFILES OR RAPISTS I HAVE MANY MUSLIM FRIENDS IN FACT WAS WORKING WITH ONE LAST NIGHT. We have had the Jimmy Savile and now the football scandal. Don't think any of them will compare the victims with a lolly pop they find in the street.

agree with the caps.statement. same as not all football coaches are paedophiles.it's the minority that cause the problems, but due to political correctness, anyone who speaks out against muslims, eastern europeans, or any other religious or foreign group is immediatelry accused of being racist, xenophobic, etc. all criminals, whatever ethnic background should be stamped on from a great height and their threat to society removed.

 

[Pete999]

you mean Lutonistan?

Well yes but I thought I had better be PC, then again why