Believe it or not this example has supposedly been tested and certified!

[andybird]

To my absolute amazement the DB and all circuits illustrated above have I am informed been tested to 17th edition standard. How many 17th edition problems can you spot here? I am wary of just how many other issues will be discovered when I start doing a few circuit tests of my own! Though I have to trace the circuits first! Quite unbelievable sadly there are a lot of 'companies' who do such shoddy work!

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Way 12 looks pretty safe and compliant to me and its circuit ID is bang on.

 

[Pete999]

Invisible ink it's in MI5 HQ so nobody can read the circuit designation

 

[Simlec]

Way 12 looks pretty safe and compliant to me and its circuit ID is bang on.

Should have used the din rail blanks as the ones shown just fall out.

Is it just not written really really small !

 

[driverman]

Way 12 looks pretty safe and compliant to me and its circuit ID is bang on.

Gives Lucie a blank look lol

 

[shanky887614]

Should have used the din rail blanks as the ones shown just fall out.

Is it just not written really really small !

you need to pull the pin out above the din rail to energise it so whats the problem

 

[davesparks]

The thing is those boards are supplied with clip in blanks, and I'm not sure you can even get full module ones to fit.

I think the idea is that with it being an isobar board there is nothing live to be touched if a blank does fall out. Not that I agree with using those ones.

The breaker on the top left is correct for the board, it just pre-dates the recent facelift of the range, the acti9 range is backwards compatible with the multi9 range

 

[driverman]

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To my absolute amazement the DB and all circuits illustrated above have I am informed been tested to 17th edition standard. How many 17th edition problems can you spot here? I am wary of just how many other issues will be discovered when I start doing a few circuit tests of my own! Though I have to trace the circuits first! Quite unbelievable sadly there are a lot of 'companies' who do such shoddy work!

Have you asked customer for any p/work relating to work done?

 

[shanky887614]

mix of rcbo's and mcbs what kind of faults are you thinking off?

 

[Pete999]

you need to pull the pin out above the din rail to energise it so whats the problem

It's a DB not a hand grenade shanky

 

[Simlec]

you need to pull the pin out above the din rail to energise it so whats the problem

So when the blanks go missing or get pushed inside as they are pants (yes they do, do din-rail ones) what IP rating are you going to give the enclosure Shanky my boy?

 

[shanky887614]

It's a DB not a hand grenade shanky

its an isobar acti9 board mate open one up and you will see what i mean.

fitted quite a few at Schneider supplied by themselfs

 

[shanky887614]

So when the blanks go missing or get pushed inside as they are pants (yes they do, do din-rail ones) what IP rating are you going to give the enclosure Shanky my boy?

usually they have both fitted.

how can you code something that hasnt happend yet, ive come across many boards where they are still in place.

 

[driverman]

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To my absolute amazement the DB and all circuits illustrated above have I am informed been tested to 17th edition standard. How many 17th edition problems can you spot here? I am wary of just how many other issues will be discovered when I start doing a few circuit tests of my own! Though I have to trace the circuits first! Quite unbelievable sadly there are a lot of 'companies' who do such shoddy work!

Be nice to see what it is like inside..as I was recommended to use this particular type of board here yesterday.

 

[Simlec]

usually they have both fitted.

how can you code something that hasnt happend yet, ive come across many boards where they are still in place.

Both fitted ?
So to prevent it from ever happening you would fit the din-rail blanks that are the shape of the MCB's in the first place Yes.

 

[shanky887614]

Both fitted ?
So to prevent it from ever happening you would fit the din-rail blanks that are the shape of the MCB's in the first place Yes.

no, i dont see the point, our db's have locks on them so only used by a competent person.

i usually use the ones in the cover.

there are usually no exposed L,N bars

 

[davesparks]

The point is taking pride in your work and doing the best job possible. Not just doing the minimum necessary and then making excuses about door locks and things not being exposed.

 

[Andy78]

I'm not sure that Schneider do din rail blanks to fit these boards, I don't think I have ever seen them.
I can confirm that the Schneider clip on blanks as shown are very sturdy, not like the flimsy ones by other brands that are easily pushed in or picked out. I tried to remove some of these blanks in a Schneider domestic CU in a wholesalers the other day. I couldn't do it.
I always use din rail blanks in all my domestic boards, but I use Hager for those and the din rail blanks are readily available.

 

[shanky887614]

I'm not sure that Schneider do din rail blanks to fit these boards, I don't think I have ever seen them.
I can confirm that the Schneider clip on blanks as shown are very sturdy, not like the flimsy ones by other brands that are easily pushed in or picked out. I tried to remove some of these blanks in a Schneider domestic CU in a wholesalers the other day. I couldn't do it.
I always use din rail blanks in all my domestic boards, but I use Hager for those and the din rail blanks are readily available.

you have to push them from inside out to get them out. they slot under then clip back

 

[Darkwood]

Sorry to go against the grain here but other than lack of obvious circuit ID there is nothing visually wrong here, clip in blanks are totally acceptable and Schneider boards of this brand have a lock off busbar stump that if not used wont be energised, it takes a total idiot to enter the board and energise an unused stub... idiots are dangerous playing with any brand, so regardless of the blank falling out, getting nuked or the plumber attacked, the user cannot stick his finger in to a live busbar pin and get a shock.

Its not bad practice, unprofessional or an eyesore its perfectly acceptable and common and to my knowledge Schneider do not make an alternative to the clip in blank