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I was in a similar boat. I contacted three different Napit Third Party Certifiers, only one was interested, but that never materialised into anything. Guess it’s more hassle than it’s worth. My LBC was happy with an EICR, but it was all part of a Building Notice, and my electrical work was covered under that, and received my Completion Certificate, when I finished the whole building work.

i would suggest you employ a competent electrician, however much it guile’s you. Or you could simply do the work yourself and not tell anyone. How good are you at testing and do you have suitable test equipment?
I would do it myself and hire an mft (£60/week apparently) or maybe borrow one from someone i know who is not a registered spark. I was an industrial spark years ago but still used ohm meters, voltmeters/ voltage testers, clamp meters and IR tester to trouble shoot. Didnt have MFTs then and the "megger" was a wind up, with meter an big lump of analogue "avo" :) tbh can't remember loop impedence testing, however I'm sure I would manage. I do think IR testing is an interesting one in an existing installation with USB sockets, LED lighting/ dimmer switches and electronic modules everywhere:)

However, my ONLY concern is invalidating house insurance, not upsetting LABC. A mate of mine had a house fire a few years back and without insurance he would have been screwed, that keeps me focused on following all the rules and regulations.
 
I would do it myself and hire an mft (£60/week apparently) or maybe borrow one from someone i know who is not a registered spark. I was an industrial spark years ago but still used ohm meters, voltmeters/ voltage testers, clamp meters and IR tester to trouble shoot. Didnt have MFTs then and the "megger" was a wind up, with meter an big lump of analogue "avo" :) tbh can't remember loop impedence testing, however I'm sure I would manage. I do think IR testing is an interesting one in an existing installation with USB sockets, LED lighting/ dimmer switches and electronic modules everywhere:)

However, my ONLY concern is invalidating house insurance, not upsetting LABC. A mate of mine had a house fire a few years back and without insurance he would have been screwed, that keeps me focused on following all the rules and regulations.

Remember things such as SPDs and type A RCDs.
 
I would do it myself and hire an mft (£60/week apparently) or maybe borrow one from someone i know who is not a registered spark. I was an industrial spark years ago but still used ohm meters, voltmeters/ voltage testers, clamp meters and IR tester to trouble shoot. Didnt have MFTs then and the "megger" was a wind up, with meter an big lump of analogue "avo" :) tbh can't remember loop impedence testing, however I'm sure I would manage. I do think IR testing is an interesting one in an existing installation with USB sockets, LED lighting/ dimmer switches and electronic modules everywhere:)

However, my ONLY concern is invalidating house insurance, not upsetting LABC. A mate of mine had a house fire a few years back and without insurance he would have been screwed, that keeps me focused on following all the rules and regulations.
I had done 5 years back on the 'tools' and been registered with a Scheme for that time. Which was then even more annoying, when a year later, when I was no longer registered with a Scheme, my LBC didn't know how to accept my qualifications, and then suggested the EICR. Which is nuts really, as I could provide a fully presented EIC.

Not sure about house insurance, but it can cause potential problems with vendors, if you sell your house.
 
Remember things such as SPDs and type A RCDs.
Yes thanks. I’ve selected my equipment, I’m going for Hager cu with round knockouts and type a rcbo per circuit. Maybe overkill but having lived with single RCD protecting all circuits for 35+ years I realise the meaning of “nuisance” in the phrase “nuisance tripping” :) At this stage I have decided against SPD and AFDD but the size of enclosure doesn’t preclude later upgrade (haha after this fiasco I can’t see that happening any time soon though!)
 
Yes thanks. I’ve selected my equipment, I’m going for Hager cu with round knockouts and type a rcbo per circuit. Maybe overkill but having lived with single RCD protecting all circuits for 35+ years I realise the meaning of “nuisance” in the phrase “nuisance tripping” :) At this stage I have decided against SPD and AFDD but the size of enclosure doesn’t preclude later upgrade (haha after this fiasco I can’t see that happening any time soon though!)
SPD's are cheap as chips relatively, and I think you find a requirement, unless you can risk access away?
 
SPD's are cheap as chips relatively, and I think you find a requirement, unless you can risk access away?
Oh, I didn’t realise there was a requirement for SPD. Could you let me know where that requirement is, so I can take a look? I would have thought AFDD were more likely to be mandatory than SPD but tbh I haven’t given either more than a cursory glance, I think at this rate I will just stick with my old setup:)
 
Oh, I didn’t realise there was a requirement for SPD. Could you let me know where that requirement is, so I can take a look? I would have thought AFDD were more likely to be mandatory than SPD but tbh I haven’t given either more than a cursory glance, I think at this rate I will just stick with my old setup:)
I'm not current on that, others will help. But like all manufacturers Hager do pre-populated boards, some include SPD's. Its not really worth NOT getting SPD's.

I think AFDD's are a recommendation at the moment, but they are silly money relatively, and your CU would need to be twice the size.
 
Do the work in close supervision with a spark that can approve the spec before you do the work, do the pre-change and post change tests and then notify? Might save a few pennies. Look out for borrowed neutrals. 😜
 

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