Clipped surface

[growler]

Am I right in thinking a new circuit clipped on the surface doesn't require rcd protection ?

 

[Engineer54]

In most circumstances that would be a correct assumption!! lol!!

 

[telectrix]

yes....unless you need to use RCD for fault protection on a TT system and it's not feeding a socket outlet requiring RCD.

 

[growler]

its feeding a hall way socket

 

[telectrix]

so does the socket need to be rcd protected, even if the cable does not?

 

[Dizzy_Maskell]

Who's using the socket, what's its purpose location etc. For a new socket I would recommend RCD for sure regardless of if technically you "can get away without"

 

[growler]

Hall socket for router and probably Hoover.

 

[Guest111]

Hall socket for router and probably Hoover.

and lawnmower perhaps,personally I'd rcd it.

 

[telectrix]

RCD socket is simplest way.

 

[KFH]

You can always use an RCD socket if protecting the cable is a pain.

Tel is too quick!!!

 

[growler]

Rcd socket is gonna look ugly In your hallway though ?

 

[telectrix]

where does KFH come from? i assume it's not Kentucky Fried Hedgehog. :lol:

 

[KFH]

Horse! I could not see what all the fuss was about with horse meat in everything

 

[DPG]

Rcd socket is gonna look ugly In your hallway though ?

Doesn't matter if it looks ugly or not , if it's needed then it's needed. Can't you feed it from an RCD somewhere instead?

 

[Guitarist]

Ways to do it...
1) RCBO in consumer unit (unless cu doesn't accept them)
2) RCD in enclosure next to cu in-line with hallway RFC
3) RCD socket (many don't look ugly at all these days

Personally, I wouldn't install a socket outlet without RCD protection.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

They don't really look ugly. Just a green and a red/blue switch instead of 2 white ones. As guitarist say though. I wouldn't even think about putting in a socket without RCD protection these days unless is was specifies or for special equipment (server, it equipment etc) also if its clipped direct does that mean no mechanical protection?

 

[growler]

yeah went for an rcbo in the end

 

[Guitarist]

yeah went for an rcbo in the end

Good man...

 

[alanl]

If this comes up again, 411.3.3 is the relevant Reg.
Basically,almost all socket outlets in domestic premises need to be RCD protected, unless they are only for the use of one particular appliance.

 

[Engineer54]

Listening to some here, it makes you wonder how we oldies all managed to stay alive without all these RCD devices being available in the past!!