Crimps in an enclosure?

[Crosswire]

Do crimped connections have to be in an enclosure (e.g. a choc box), or can they just sit free?

Thinking about for normal downlights......

 

[Sintra]

Every termination, connection or joint between live conductors including the neutral conductor must be made in a suitable accessory or enclosure. 421.7, 526.5

 

[Adam W]

I would have said being out of the way in the ceiling void is sufficient because you wouldn't be able to access them unintentionally.
Putting the crimps in an enclosure which is fixed to, say, a joist is a nice idea but in the case of downlighters that could make the joint less accessible.

 

[MNR]

Crimps just sitting free. You would then have single insulated cables sitting free as well?

 

[Sintra]

Crimps just sitting free. You would then have single insulated cables sitting free as well?

Exactly my point.

 

[Des 56]

I usually use a choc box with flex to feed downlights,however, because they are accessable, and crimping is restrictive (if you wanted to drop the fitting or swap it out) I find it better using connector blocks

I reserve crimping to the in accessable places and then in an enclosure
I would put them in some sort of enclosure wherever possible

I suppose, if they are not in an enclosure, then the outer insulation has to be re introduced

 

[Crosswire]

Crimps just sitting free. You would then have single insulated cables sitting free as well?

I would wind a load of insulation tape round them

 

[jase]

what if someone popped out that downlight in future and left it hanging> ie decorater? are the crimps made to take that weight? i do think i remember reading somewhere about downlights and cable cord grips???
anyone know where this is in regs or OSG?

 

[Sintra]

I would wind a load of insulation tape round them

That would look really professional.

 

[Sintra]

what if someone popped out that downlight in future and left it hanging> ie decorater? are the crimps made to take that weight? i do think i remember reading somewhere about downlights and cable cord grips???
anyone know where this is in regs or OSG?

Connections must not be subject to any mechanical stress or strain. 526.6, 530.4.1

 

[Crosswire]

Also 526.5 (iii).................

"An enclosure partially formed or completed with building material.............."

E.G. the ceiling void

I thank you

 

[jase]

Ashley J501 16 Amp Downlighter Junction Box

these are the best thing for downlights!!!

 

[mrmatt]

That would look really professional.

heatshrink is the way forward

 

[Crosswire]

Hmm I suppose the mechanical stress thing is true......

But what it looks like is irrelevant, as long as it's safe ( and unseen in the ceiling void)


I suppose choc boxes with cable clamps is the best option......

 

[robsparx]

i would wind a load of insulation tape round them

......lol