DIYers/Builders...when will it end

[GLENNSPARK]

Still can't see the bigger picture then!!! Restrictive trading of electrical materials will only make material prices HIGHER!! and will reduce your work not increase it... And it will still not stop the home DIYer from working and doing jobs in his own home!!!

Your seeing a problem that just ISN'T there in the first place. It's the builders Plumber's, Kitchen Fitters and all the other tradesmen that are hiring there services to do electrical work that is your problem, and these so-called scheme providers (that your paying extortionate fee's too) that are officially allowing them to do it!! As i said before, You need to sort out your own back yard before you start worrying about the non existent problems with home owner DIYers...

exactly my point earlier eng about divvys comeing along and hireing themselves out to do electrical work in other peoples homes/property without the slightest incling of either:

1)what they are doing

2)what needs doing

3) how to do the job compliantly

 

[Dave 85]

This is gonna make me popular....
I've said it before and Im gonna say it again....
I have no problem with Part P registration.
Ok I'm young and I've never known anything else but Im glad its there.
£350 a year is chump change as far as I'm concerned, gas fitters have to pay an arm and a leg to stay registered.
I use Elecsa, they're always on hand for advice if I need it and my annual inspection keeps my standards from slipping.
Now I know some of ypu are gonna come out and say the introduction of Part P has NEVER deterred a SINGLE kitchen fitter/builder from doing his own wiring. This is a load of crap. Ok so I realise lots of you see evidence of other trades doing electrical work but I hardly see any (not in brown and blue, plenty of DIY bodging in white T&E though). When I chat to other trades about it they say things to the effect of "I used to do all my own wiring but I'm not allowed any more cos of part P"
I'm certain that I would have significantly less work on without it.

IMO its better to have a kitchen fitter whos had five weeks intensive electrical training and had to pass both practical and theory exams, aswell as being assesed on his competence once a year (ok its hard to fail, but they're gonna point out what you're doing wrong) doing wiring than a kitchen fitter whos just seen a sparky do it a few times.
I know at least 3 tradesmen who have done the part P course then realised afterwards that they still cant legally work without being registered and given up, who don't do their own wiring (they all use me).

 

[Dave 85]

Ok so its a bit silly that a fully trained experience sparky who works for a company isn't allowed to so his own notifiable private work but if it were me I'd just do it anyway instead os sitting on the net moaning about it day in day out.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Ok so its a bit silly that a fully trained experience sparky who works for a company isn't allowed to so his own notifiable private work but if it were me I'd just do it anyway instead os sitting on the net moaning about it day in day out.

Thank flock for that !!!!

I was sitting here thinking I was all alone !!!

 

[alarm man]

Ok so its a bit silly that a fully trained experience sparky who works for a company isn't allowed to so his own notifiable private work but if it were me I'd just do it anyway instead os sitting on the net moaning about it day in day out.

ive done a bit,and im not part p as its known,i do have a guide to part p regs book tho.it doesnt stop any spark doing what they have done for years anyway imo

 

[trev]

To a point, we should be thankful for the existence of the DIYer and for the sheds that supply him/her. For example, today I have had two calls from people who have decided to put their own light fittings in. Red to red black to black turn on and bang Er I'd best phone a sparky.
Easy money for an easy job

 

[Geordie Spark]

ive done a bit,and im not part p as its known,i do have a guide to part p regs book tho.it doesnt stop any spark doing what they have done for years anyway imo

As long as you have a guide to Part P you'll always be able to wipe yer arse & light yer fire.

 

[trev]

ive done a bit,and im not part p as its known,i do have a guide to part p regs book tho.it doesnt stop any spark doing what they have done for years anyway imo

It also never stops a cowboy

 

[Dave 85]

ive done a bit,and im not part p as its known,i do have a guide to part p regs book tho.it doesnt stop any spark doing what they have done for years anyway imo

Exactly. It was never intended to stop qualified employed electicians doing their own work, that was just a side effect. I can't see how you'd ever get in trouble for it. For a sparky who spends most of their time doing private domestic jobs its in their own interest to be registered to avoid the odd problem with building inspectors and because it looks more pro if you can put on yr letter head 'registered competent person'

If you're a qual'd spark whos not registered doing private domestic jobs the only thing you are doing is a minor breach of building regs, which any decent builder does on a regular basis.

 

[alarm man]

As long as you have a guide to Part P you'll always be able to wipe yer arse & light yer fire.

it s not a bad read really when your sitiing there when it wont come out,prefer the ronny gill most times..
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