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What are peoples thoughts on this, should socket outlets in the general public areas be RCD/RCBO protected? I believe they do and have put them down as a C2 on a recent EICR but recently got a phone call to say it's a C3!
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I would be c2What are peoples thoughts on this, should socket outlets in the general public areas be RCD/RCBO protected? I believe they do and have put them down as a C2 on a recent EICR but recently got a phone call to say it's a C3!
It's a bit out of date buzz at it still refers to skilled and instructed persons 2008
Well of course that has been updated now so that Skilled persons bit has been removed.please read.
To be honest I would C3 sockets domestically say for upstairs were sockets are generally not likely to be used for supplying outdoor equipment yet they can be multiple USB type so I don't see any relevance.The cables supplying them are less than 50 mm depth and I've started seeing a lot more people charging phones, laptops or tablets for kids. Personally I think there a C2 because of the above and more and more sites are starting to change there sockets for the ones with the USB charge outlets.
It was the QS and Electrical ManagerYeh but still would like to know who the hell rung you and told you your report was wrong, what do they know you don't?
Ah well thats different then...QS and Electrical Manager
Your QS?It was the QS and Electrical Manager
Your QS?It was the QS and Electrical Manager
weather its been up dated or not reg are the regs.Well of course that has been updated now so that Skilled persons bit has been removed.
Aha beaten to it by @Ian1981
We have the same issue with outdoor light fittings not being mechanically protected and wanting to put them on rcd/RCBO protection, it always gets knocked back.To be honest I would C3 sockets domestically say for upstairs were sockets are generally not likely to be used for supplying outdoor equipment yet they can be multiple USB type so I don't see any relevance.
This is not domestic of course
YepYour QS?
Told them that and had many an argument over it, he changes the codings without us knowing it, we found out by one of the lads in the office telling us.tell them, and its down to the test engineer and your the one that testing it.
the answer for that tell him to sign all the eicr test sheets .Told them that and had many an argument over it, he changes the codings without us knowing it, we found out by one of the lads in the office telling us.
Well that's nice of him to tell you and your guys.Told them that and had many an argument over it, he changes the codings without us knowing it, we found out by one of the lads in the office telling us.
Well he should anyway as QSsign all the eicr test sheets
your right their .Well he should anyway as QS
We have the same issue with outdoor light fittings not being mechanically protected and wanting to put them on rcd/RCBO protection, it always gets knocked back.
Yes they should now be provided with RCD protection.
As for determining a code, that depends on when they were installed and their intended use.
what you see is what you find.I was once a QS on a contracting company, I was told that you can't change the certificates unless you get the testing engineer to explain his findings, or he should go to site and checkout the defects of the results with the testing guy.
Yes and the current edition/amendment just like all the other editions/amendments, states installations constructed to earlier editions may not necessarily be unsafe.The code doesn't change based on when they were installed, the EICR and the codes applied are based solely on the current edition of bs7671
weather it is 15th 16th and now 17th some body get hurt the h/s will be on some bodys back .Yes and the current edition/amendment just like all the other editions/amendments, states installations constructed to earlier editions may not necessarily be unsafe.
Failure to take on board this fact, is failure to conduct the inspection in accordance with the current edition/amendment of BS7671
We do put down for mechanical protection also along with rcd/RCBO protection. Sorry I didn't explain fully, I should of put it.That makes no sense at all, of course you've been knocked back.
An RCD does not provide any sort of mechanical protection, if mechanical protection is required then you need to install mechanical protection to rectify it.
to late now the horse has bolted .We do put down for mechanical protection also along with rcd/RCBO protection. Sorry I didn't explain fully, I should of put it.
Yes and the current edition/amendment just like all the other editions/amendments, states installations constructed to earlier editions may not necessarily be unsafe.
Failure to take on board this fact, is failure to conduct the inspection in accordance with the current edition/amendment of BS7671.
We do put down for mechanical protection also along with rcd/RCBO protection. Sorry I didn't explain fully, I should of put it.
Looks like the thunder has arrived.
At least here it has.
Not very practical the inspector should be able to carry out this kind of work unsupervised or shouldn't be doing itthe Q/S should be their with the persons who is testing it .and over seeing the testing
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