Earth rod driving stud size

[Mike Johnson]

Can anyone tell me the socket size of the head to a 5/8" Earth driving stud, the bolt that fits into the threaded joiner?

Dims across the flats that is: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/1534797535...7i0Vp-UFlpucIMSuZLmCr_kyw7aedr-BoCrQYQAvD_BwE

 

[Ian1981]

I’d imagine 16 mm

 

[Rockingit]

I'm a hundred plus miles away from mine so trying to visualise.... bigger than you'd think, I'd say in the 24-28mm area comfortably

 

[Rockingit]

25mm according to screwfix Q&A

 

[Wilko]

Hi - I have that Screwfix version and can confirm it’s 25mm, at least at first. I use their brass joiner to couple down onto the rod top and have at it.
https://www.NoLinkingToThis/p/earth-rod-driving-stud-5-8/45258

 

[Mike Johnson]

I am also a few hundred miles away from my workshop, hence the question, thanks for your input guys, I think this is what I need: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kennedy-...a=1&pg=2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

 

[Julie.]

Measuring the one I have gives 25.86m

So you need a 26mm af socket.

Just tried a 25mm socket, and it won't go on, but 26 does.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Thanks Julie, looks like the socket I linked to above will work @ 1-1/16 = 0.269875

 

[Ian1981]

I was close then ??‍??‍
I meant the thread size ??‍

 

[telectrix]

Measuring the one I have gives 25.86mView attachment 62445

So you need a 26mm af socket.

Just tried a 25mm socket, and it won't go on, but 26 does.

couldn't you have flicked the inch/mm switch for us dinosaurs.

 

[Julie.]

couldn't you have flicked the inch/mm switch for us dinosaurs.

1.0181"

Is that any better?

 

[pc1966]

5/8" UNF would be 23.81mm
M16 would be 24mm
5/8" BSF would be 25.65mm
So it seems it harks back to Joseph Whitworth days!

 

[PEG]

The higher quality rods are threaded to UNC-2A ,and that would be an imperial 1 1/8" A/F,but as they are not made as a fastener,they can use any combination of size/type.

A 26mm socket is included in larger sets.to pickup imperial sizes,between the standard metric increments.

 

[telectrix]

one size fits all:

 

[loz2754]

Why not just use an adjustable spanner. It's just one bolt.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I don't know if that was supposed to be tongue in cheek or not, makes it difficult to know if there are no smilies on the post. ?

But just in case, the impact socket with a SDS to 1/2" convertor allows driving in an earth rod with a SDS drill.

 

[loz2754]

I don't know if that was supposed to be tongue in cheek or not, makes it difficult to know if there are no smilies on the post. ?

But just in case, the impact socket with a SDS to 1/2" convertor allows driving in an earth rod with a SDS drill.

Ah I get it now! Never even thought of doing it that way. I usually screw the bolt in and whack it with a large hammer. (Telectrix's preferred method ?).

 

[Mike Johnson]

ENEDIS (EDF) have been doing the rounds in our commune and issued notice's that most of the TT systems do not comply, as ours is a rural and mostly elderly couples area I have taken it upon myself to help a few of the locals when I am next down, so wish to make it easier for myself, I will use my SDS to drive the rods.

 

[Mike Johnson]

It's strange isn't it how we perceive others, I have written above about elderly couples without a thought that I am in my mid 70's and would be considered to be in that group. ?

 

[Rockingit]

Ah I get it now! Never even thought of doing it that way. I usually screw the bolt in and whack it with a large hammer. (Telectrix's preferred method ?).

My preferred method is to watch whilst someone else loses their knuckles ?

 

[Zerax]

It's strange isn't it how we perceive others, I have written above about elderly couples without a thought that I am in my mid 70's and would be considered to be in that group. ?

I'm more concerned that you live in a "commune" ! Have you given up all worldly possessions ? Do you share everything ? Smoke weed all day ??

 

[Mike Johnson]

I'm more concerned that you live in a "commune" ! Have you given up all worldly possessions ? Do you share everything ? Smoke weed all day ??

I can but hope. ?

 

[nicebutdim]

I've driven a total of 3 earth rods. The first was sent home with a sledge hammer, many years ago. The other two were added a couple of years ago and started with an SDS that was quickly abandoned in favour of the trusty sledge hammer. Through softer areas the sledge was much faster. When I hit harder ground and obstructions the sledge was similarly much faster.

In short; driving earth rods with an SDS drill might be a less labour intensive option, but wastes an awful lot of time. I don't care for this method, but then I don't have to drive earth rods on a regular basis ?

 

[telectrix]

sledgehammer every time, and get Glennspark to wield the hammer. if he can't drive it in, nobody can.. butI'd hold it with a 3 ft. pair of blacksmith's tongs. i like my knuckles.

 

[pc1966]

I used some 2m lengths M16 stainless studding recently as earth rods. Cut then end with an angle grinder to look a bit like a drill bit then pre-drilled 1m using a 20mm SDS drill and then used a 'stud nut runner' with a SDS to 1/2" drive adaptor to screw them in like enormous screws.

Enormous screws. Hmm, there must be a double entendre I can slip in at this point...

 

[Robson689]

I've driven a total of 3 earth rods. The first was sent home with a sledge hammer, many years ago. The other two were added a couple of years ago and started with an SDS that was quickly abandoned in favour of the trusty sledge hammer. Through softer areas the sledge was much faster. When I hit harder ground and obstructions the sledge was similarly much faster.

In short; driving earth rods with an SDS drill might be a less labour intensive option, but wastes an awful lot of time. I don't care for this method, but then I don't have to drive earth rods on a regular basis ?

It's too unpredictable but I don't see how an SDS would be any use we just have earth rod adapters for demolition hammers

I did use a sledgehammer for one job today though and managed 7.2m total

 

[PEG]

Having spent some time in the Piling job,where motorised percussive driving,is usually faster and easeir,i prefer using an old TE72 hilti,and that gets through most materials,given chance.

I wouldn't be shy of using a sledge...i own two 56lb items,which nobody is rushing to borrow,but they are used with the acceptance of damage,to both animal and mineral..?

.....i actually got an eemoji to stick....Trump will be gone,before i work out how.....

 

[Mike Johnson]

Ah but the RB22 Auger was much better. ?

 

[loz2754]

Te72. Beast of a machine.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Does anyone have the spec of the TE72, as it is no longer made seems to be a bit sparse of detail, trying to compare it with this:

• 1500W
• Drill, Hammer Drill & Chisel
• Max. Impact Energy: 8J
• Anti-Vibration System
• Mechanical Safety Clutch
• Magnesium Gearbox
• No Brake
• On/Off Switch
• 6-Speed
• Replaceable Brushes

Mostly interested in the Impact Energy.

 

[Zerax]

Does anyone have the spec of the TE72, as it is no longer made seems to be a bit sparse of detail, trying to compare it with this:

• 1500W
• Drill, Hammer Drill & Chisel
• Max. Impact Energy: 8J
• Anti-Vibration System
• Mechanical Safety Clutch
• Magnesium Gearbox
• No Brake
• On/Off Switch
• 6-Speed
• Replaceable Brushes

Mostly interested in the Impact Energy.

I don't have my set of "Top Trumps" for hammer drills with me right now...

 

[Mike Johnson]

That's a surprise.

 

[nicebutdim]

Can be difficut to find out very much of anything about Hilti, beyond prices and details of maintenance contracts.

 

[PEG]

Ah but the RB22 Auger was much better. ?

Good little machine,as a manual...on air,they were a bit unpredictable,first thing,on a frosty morning

 

[Mike Johnson]

Can be difficut to find out very much of anything about Hilti, beyond prices and details of maintenance contracts.

All I wish to compare is the Impact energy between different machines, my Hitachi SDS @ 3.2 joules is a bit of a lightweight, however the cheap and cheerful Titan @ 8 joules is a bit of a beast in comparison, drills into concrete and Granite without much of a problem, but is very heavy to work with free hand.

Can't find much on the TE72, but the TE80 is 11.2 joules so it does look as though the TE72 may be better than the Titan at driving in an earth rod.

 

[Robson689]

All I wish to compare is the Impact energy between different machines, my Hitachi SDS @ 3.2 joules is a bit of a lightweight, however the cheap and cheerful Titan @ 8 joules is a bit of a beast in comparison, drills into concrete and Granite without much of a problem, but is very heavy to work with free hand.

Can't find much on the TE72, but the TE80 is 11.2 joules so it does look as though the TE72 may be better than the Titan at driving in an earth rod.

Drilling is very different to driving earth rods I don't think you should drive rods with an SDS constantly unless you have a big budget for new drills

The breaker I carry for daily use is 39 joules "blow energy" according to the manufacturer

 

[Mike Johnson]

I bet you have big biceps, I'm a weedy OAP don't even think I could pick one of those up, let alone use it. ?

 

[Mike Johnson]

I am also a few hundred miles away from my workshop, hence the question, thanks for your input guys, I think this is what I need: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kennedy-5-8-A-F-Impact-Socket-1-2-Sq-Dr/114465887524?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160727114228&meid=6703839bd388492590751377f8365c2a&pid=100290&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=114465887524&itm=114465887524&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

The Socket has arrived and its 26mm across the flats, thanks to those that helped especially Julie for the vernier calliper picture and measurements.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Amazon sent me this link today: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07ZTQMQJ7/ref=pe_3193591_547463921_em_1p_0_lm. Looks as though it's just a plain shaft, no thread and over diameter would probably bell over the end and make it impossible to attach a second rod, looks like the best idea is the driving stud and impact socket.

Sent from my laptop using all my fingers

 

[Zerax]

Looks as though it's just a plain shaft, no thread and over diameter would probably bell over the end...

There's no way I'm clicking on that link... I hate to think what might come up !!

 

[RetiredRoy]

Having spent some time in the Piling job,where motorised percussive driving,is usually faster and easeir,i prefer using an old TE72 hilti,and that gets through most materials,given chance.

I wouldn't be shy of using a sledge...i own two 56lb items,which nobody is rushing to borrow,but they are used with the acceptance of damage,to both animal and mineral..?

.....i actually got an eemoji to stick....Trump will be gone,before i work out how.....

Just wondered if you would be interested in selling one of your 56lb items?

 

[Mike Johnson]

The cheap Triton SDS drill has 5.5J of power and even though its heavy once on top of the rod drives it in with ease, less strain than a 56lb sledge.

 

[PEG]

Just wondered if you would be interested in selling one of your 56lb items?

Hi,sadly no.....got an acute aversion to releasing tools in to the wild (tool hoarder)
I would imagine there are a few unused examples out there....too much for the smart phone generation - gym or no gym

If i remember,one came from a pals grandad,years before i was capable of using or needing it,and the other came by chance,with no shaft,from an architectural supply place called Bygone Times,at Eccleston....not sure if still in business.

Not the only stupid Thor themed tools i have....got an inch and a half diameter,6 foot prybar...a 36" steel set square which weighs 15kg....coroner is gonna need an engineering almanac from last century...to correctly identify the ridiculous tool i'm found lifeless,under

 

[RetiredRoy]

Hi,sadly no.....got an acute aversion to releasing tools in to the wild (tool hoarder)
I would imagine there are a few unused examples out there....too much for the smart phone generation - gym or no gym

If i remember,one came from a pals grandad,years before i was capable of using or needing it,and the other came by chance,with no shaft,from an architectural supply place called Bygone Times,at Eccleston....not sure if still in business.

Not the only stupid Thor themed tools i have....got an inch and a half diameter,6 foot prybar...a 36" steel set square which weighs 15kg....coroner is gonna need an engineering almanac from last century...to correctly identify the ridiculous tool i'm found lifeless,under

I know where you are coming from, wife complains she can't get into the shed!!
Take care. Roy

 

[DPG]

I know where you are coming from, wife complains she can't get into the shed!!
Take care. Roy

I'd be asking why she wanted to go in your shed!