EICR prices - 3 bed semi or per certificate?

[Chris]

I was asked if I can test a domestic property in Liverpool yesterday, I said yes i can and told them I charge £120 for an EICR. They then replied
"£100 sounds better"
I replied saying no I charge £120 for a domestic EICR (Which i think is pretty reasonable?)
They did not reply!

Out of curiosity how much do you charge for a domestic EICR and what area are you from?
I Feel like £100 is too cheap for a proper inspection and test?
and do any of you negotiate on price at all?
I set a price and dont move from it as i think if i could do it any cheaper (without doing myself over) then I would? If i set a price and then lower it was i not overcharging in the first place?

Curious to hear other opinions!

 

[Robson689]

£120 sounds cheap too

 

[SJD]

Depends on the size of the property, but £120 is too cheap unless it is a very small flat/bedsit.

 

[Dustydazzler]

£250

Five blooming words...

 

[Baddegg]

Better off setting your price per circuit and don’t budge, that’s the price take it or leave don’t race to the bottom cos everyone loses

 

[Andy78]

£175 is my absolute minimum for any property. It's hardly ever that cheap though.
There are loads round here who make them up and go in and out in 40 minutes or so for £60. They are very popular with landlords.

 

[ferg]

I'm usually doing Pat at the same time so charge for the day. Bearing in mind I work alone.

 

[Chris]

Better off setting your price per circuit and don’t budge, that’s the price take it or leave don’t race to the bottom cos everyone loses

What is your price per circuit if you dont mind me asking?
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Depends on the size of the property, but £120 is too cheap unless it is a very small flat/bedsit.

See most people ive spoken too charge around the 120 mark so ive always thought its pretty standard, i usually spend around 3 hours in the property testing and about an hour writing up the cert. Charged at £30ph. What is your pricing process?

 

[Des 56]

Napit s suggestion for eicrs seems a standard that can be applied in most instances
They recommend 40 mins per circuit and 40 mins per distribution board

So a typical domestic with one cons unit and 6 circuits would be around five hours with the paperwork added,multiply this by your hourly rate

 

[Baddegg]

@Chris, I only do domestic and only as an add on to my existing business and rarely do an eicr so don’t really have to be competitive, I charge £30 a circuit upto 6 circuits, anymore than that and I’d charge for the day......but as I say if I don’t get it I’m not fussed ......and with the advent of the drive by £60 eicr I can’t see me doing many more as I want no part of that game.....I’d rather sleep easy at night than put my name to one of them

 

[SJD]

I estimate how long it will take, and cost it based on £36 or £40 per hour. But it is rare that I'd only need 3 hours, more like 5 hours for 3-bed semi, and longer for a larger property.

Plus I'm sufficiently busy that I'm not worried if I don't get the work. If someone tells me it is expensive, I usually explain they can likely get it done cheaper, possibly with reduced testing (which might be what they are looking for, if it is just to be able to say one has been done).

 

[Deleted account]

I hate doing EICRs. I find them boring. So i charge £250 in the hope I don’t get them. I also inform customers there are idiots sorry el3ctricians out there doing them for £60-£100.
Amazingly quite often they come back and ask me to do them.

 

[Baddegg]

It’s shame that it’s gonna take another person dying before anyone clamps down on the drive bys.....

 

[Des 56]

It’s shame that it’s gonna take another person dying before anyone clamps down on the drive bys.....

When you say "another person" who is the first person by the way ?
If there was a first person I would suggest a second will have no effect on the PIR industry at all

Not enough people get killed by electricity therefore any action to regulate is a cost that can not be justified by the regulators

The scam of inspections by mainly inexperienced persons for rogue companies will continue unabated whilst economics is the only driving force

 

[Pete999]

I was asked if I can test a domestic property in Liverpool yesterday, I said yes i can and told them I charge £120 for an EICR. They then replied
"£100 sounds better"
I replied saying no I charge £120 for a domestic EICR (Which i think is pretty reasonable?)
They did not reply!

Out of curiosity how much do you charge for a domestic EICR and what area are you from?
I Feel like £100 is too cheap for a proper inspection and test?
and do any of you negotiate on price at all?
I set a price and dont move from it as i think if i could do it any cheaper (without doing myself over) then I would? If i set a price and then lower it was i not overcharging in the first place?

Curious to hear other opinions!

Too cheap more likely £250 plus a bit say £300

 

[Baddegg]

Was referring to Mary Wherry @Des 56.....admittedly nothing to do with eicrs but it made people look at the industry, specifically domestic electrical works

 

[Des 56]

Was referring to Mary Wherry @Des 56.....admittedly nothing to do with eicrs but it made people look at the industry, specifically domestic electrical works

Ah right I understand now

I did read of and know of that case,it was a tragedy and this particular case showed that no action would likely ever be taken to make schemes and rogue companies become responsible in the eicr market

Thanks very much for the info

 

[buzzlightyear]

here are idiots sorry el3ctricians out there doing them for £60-£100.

what you are saying cut corners when its not tested fully .£30 per circuit the op should be charging ..

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

I too have just about given up on EICRs. I quote £120 - which is barely worth it as I tend to do it properly and make a day of it.

I don't get any takers.

 

[SparkySy]

I charge £150 for a standard 1-2 bed flat and £250 for a standard 3-4 bed house, any bigger and it's estimated on time or per circuit! I seem to do a lot of houses but not so many flats, mainly student let houses too.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I charge a days labour as the base price then may reduce it by say 10 or 20 if its literally on the doorstep and dont have to go far.
standard price though is 240 for a 3 bed semi

 

[SparkySy]

This is an interesting thread as I have often wondered if I am dear or too cheap!

 

[Baddegg]

This is an interesting thread as I have often wondered if I am dear or too cheap!

Get ya self in the arms @SparkySy, you’ll find people more inclined to discuss prices etc than on an open forum

 

[SparkySy]

Ah I didn't know that! Do I need to speak to the landlord to get in?

 

[Baddegg]

Ah I didn't know that! Do I need to speak to the landlord to get in?

Yes mate DM one of the staff and they will sort it for you...

 

[buzzlightyear]

Do I need to speak to the landlord to get in?

he will be waiting at the door.lol.

 

[SparkySy]

Ah nice! Thanks for that @Baddegg I will do!

 

[Baddegg]

Ah nice! Thanks for that @Baddegg I will do!

Welcome mate......five words

 

[Pauls0212]

200 minimum... dont race to the bottom

 

[Risteard]

I was asked if I can test a domestic property in Liverpool yesterday, I said yes i can and told them I charge £120 for an EICR. They then replied
"£100 sounds better"
I replied saying no I charge £120 for a domestic EICR (Which i think is pretty reasonable?)
They did not reply!

Out of curiosity how much do you charge for a domestic EICR and what area are you from?
I Feel like £100 is too cheap for a proper inspection and test?
and do any of you negotiate on price at all?
I set a price and dont move from it as i think if i could do it any cheaper (without doing myself over) then I would? If i set a price and then lower it was i not overcharging in the first place?

Curious to hear other opinions!

£200 minimum. Location is Derry in the north-west of Ireland.

 

[StephenRowley]

I suspect the cheap EICR will carry on until someone does jail time for missing an obvious fault and someone gets killed.

 

[Rodders099]

Literally anyone can carry out an EICR...and I mean anyone. I bet a lot of wet pants consider themselves competent.
They are not even notifiable works.
There is practically no record of anyone ever being injured by a poor EICR or a person testing being prosecuted for poor certification.

So, why on earth is anyone surprised at the absolutely diabolical part of our industry, that is EICR, is over run by chancers and cowboys ??

 

[richy3333]

Love doing it. Do loads and charge per circuit.

 

[JK-Electrical]

Literally anyone can carry out an EICR...and I mean anyone. I bet a lot of wet pants consider themselves competent.

You are correct. I've lost EICRs to wetpants in the past.

There is practically no record of anyone ever being injured by a poor EICR or a person testing being prosecuted for poor certification.

It's only a matter of time before a fatality occurs, I reckon. When rather than if.

So, why on earth is anyone surprised at the absolutely diabolical part of our industry, that is EICR, is over run by chancers and cowboys ??

I for one am no longer surprised by the appalling standards that I see in the greater Glasgow area week in, week out.
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Prices for EICRs up here in Glasgow are ridiculously low. Ditto rewires and just about every other type of domestic work. Although the prices I charge are above the typical prices for this part of the country, they're still relatively low when compared with the prices some of you lucky guys down south are getting.

JK Electrical - Terms and Conditions - http://www.jkelectricalservices.com/pages/terms_and_conditions.html#eicr

 

[Jelade Elect.]

£175 is my absolute minimum for any property. It's hardly ever that cheap though.
There are loads round here who make them up and go in and out in 40 minutes or so for £60. They are very popular with landlords.

I charge £150 for a standard 1-2 bed flat and £250 for a standard 3-4 bed house, any bigger and it's estimated on time or per circuit! I seem to do a lot of houses but not so many flats, mainly student let houses too.

Same here I charge around £220.00 as a Min. standard on a 2 bed House or Flat with a 6/8 way D.B takes around half a day 3 to 4 hours, then on my P.C. to issue a report etc, funny how some Electricians can do it for silly money as I will check at least drop off a socket & switch in each room, check outside the property for external electrics etc. also earthing for Gas water & Oil bonding or if cross bonding is required also, if cables or visible are supported correctly the correct selection of breakers/fused for circuits they are serving.
its not a quick thing as we are there as experts in our field and should give a good account of it.
so when I hear its too dear, I walk away as you will also get a taker and wish them good luck lol

 

[Grant1987]

Same here I charge around £220.00 as a Min. standard on a 2 bed House or Flat with a 6/8 way D.B takes around half a day 3 to 4 hours, then on my P.C. to issue a report etc, funny how some Electricians can do it for silly money as I will check at least drop off a socket & switch in each room, check outside the property for external electrics etc. also earthing for Gas water & Oil bonding or if cross bonding is required also, if cables or visible are supported correctly the correct selection of breakers/fused for circuits they are serving.
its not a quick thing as we are there as experts in our field and should give a good account of it.
so when I hear its too dear, I walk away as you will also get a taker and wish them good luck lol

Price Varys with myself if its in occupied property and not a nice one to test due to cleanliness I add more money which the landlord understands but bottom end I charge £120 on 1 Bed Flat/ Bungalow (Clean) then ranging up to £250 for 3 Bed House (Dirty)

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I charge on average £175. I wouldn't negotiate, unless less work is required. I can't remember anyone ever saying 'no'.
It does sound as though prices are a bit area dependant though.

 

[Dan]

£250

Five blooming words...

Shh it's 4 now. ?

 

[oracle]

Literally anyone can carry out an EICR...and I mean anyone. I bet a lot of wet pants consider themselves competent.
They are not even notifiable works.
There is practically no record of anyone ever being injured by a poor EICR or a person testing being prosecuted for poor certification.

So, why on earth is anyone surprised at the absolutely diabolical part of our industry, that is EICR, is over run by chancers and cowboys ??

Welcome to Britain! Anyone can install electrical equipment and wiring providing it's done in accordance with BS7671 regulations. If it's Notifiable the Building Authority must be informed but someone else will probably do it.

Anyone can inspect and test installations provided they use test equipment to BS EN 61010 and BS EN 61557, recording the results on any piece of paper provided that it contains the required information in appendix 6, BS7671, although other test methods can be used provided they give valid results.
All these things depend on compliance with BS7671, only it's not statutory so you don't have to. ?

 

[cliffed]

Talking in realms of £180 to £250,it’s gonna take a while,then the paperwork ,so maybe up to a 8 way DB,full test in a domestic property,allow a day.

 

[fairlight]

I suspect the cheap EICR will carry on until someone does jail time for missing an obvious fault and someone gets killed.

The problem with this is that EICR's rarely involve 100% sampling and are required to be carried out with minimum dismantling (GN3). This means that any points not part of the sample could be hiding a dangerous fault even on a properly carried out EICR, I think that is something many good electricians do not appreciate. If we advocate draconian measures for those who miss something on an EICR then it will have to be 100% sampling on all installations or none of us will be safe, not just the drive by brigade.