Female electricians, for better or for worse?

[oracle]

Having worked on site with women, they seem to come in two forms, one a really good worker or Barbie with "Eeew, I broke a nail".

Probably if there were a lot more ladies in the trade there would be more of a cross section

 

[Cadgey123]

Having worked on site with women, they seem to come in two forms, one a really good worker or Barbie with "Eeew, I broke a nail".

Probably if there were a lot more ladies in the trade there would be more of a cross section

I see a lot of that on site with men too. No different. I wish there were more woman tradespeople in the construction industry.

 

[markc123]

You also have blokes who are electricians and blokes who think theyre electricians ...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Cant even see why the questions being asked.

 

[Pete999]

Cant even see why the questions being asked.

Neither can I, Lets have a load more Sparky Chicks on the Forum as well, the more the merrier.

 

[dmxtothemax]

Every female electrician I have seen has been an exceptionally good electrician, very sharp and cluey.
Mock them at your peril !

 

[Baddegg]

Having worked on site with women, they seem to come in two forms, one a really good worker or Barbie with "Eeew, I broke a nail".

Probably if there were a lot more ladies in the trade there would be more of a cross section

Plenty of men like that as well these days,what difference does it make male or female long as they know what they doing?

 

[JAWS]

If they're as knowledgeable as Sparky chick on this forum then more the merrier.

 

[Andy78]

Cant even see why the questions being asked.

I can't even see a question .....

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Isn’t the phrase ‘for better or for worse’ something to do with getting married?
Perhaps the OP is considering proposing to a female sparks?

 

[PEG]

Although apparently harmless,the original question could be taken as the starter's gun,for yet another sexist debate...then it's sparks of different colour,age,heritage,town and height...

There are lots of missing groups,in the electrical world,and gender is one of them. So are knowledge,patience and acceptance.

Being female,in the trade,should have nothing to do with it.

Between Rose West,and me mum,is every variation from worst to best,and singling out gender as a reason for either...is dodgy territory

 

[SparkyChick]

Having worked on site with women, they seem to come in two forms, one a really good worker or Barbie with "Eeew, I broke a nail".

If I break a nail it gets cut off with my Knipex side cutters or filed down with a great big Stanley flat file

Probably if there were a lot more ladies in the trade there would be more of a cross section

I wish there were more woman tradespeople in the construction industry.

All I'm going to say is you need to be careful what you wish for. It may seem like a nice idea to have more women around, but trust me, there is a very good chance that as the number of women in a male dominated work force increases, the number of problems faced by the men will increase.

You may get lucky and get a load of chicks like me, who prefer beer, bad language, smutty jokes and a pint down the pub with the boys, but I think what's more likely is you'll get snowflakes who are there through affirmative action programs designed to address the non-problem of gender imbalance in the workforce.

I'm thinking about how I expand my business when it comes to it. Do I simply hire men and keep it simple or do I hire a mixture and possibly run the risk of exposing the men to the threat of sexual impropriety (if I don't choose the right chick)? It's an almost impossible situation and this is a problem that is now being discussed with a common thread being that the #MeToo movement has actually damaged womens chances of being hired into roles in male dominated industries because management aren't willing to take the risk.

Neither can I, Lets have a load more Sparky Chicks on the Forum as well, the more the merrier.

If they're as knowledgeable as Sparky chick on this forum then more the merrier.

Thanks chaps

 

[JOURNEYMAN]

Well put Sparky Chic........plus Knipex side cutters great for cutting nails!

 

[Squid]

Having worked on site with women, they seem to come in two forms, one a really good worker or Barbie with "Eeew, I broke a nail".

Probably if there were a lot more ladies in the trade there would be more of a cross section

The two forms I have seen are the butch manly ones with a crew cut, jeans and a wallet in the back pocket on a chain and an lumberjack shirt or the fat ones. ;o)))))

Never seen SparkyHotChick though so she may change my perceptions........ ---

Phwooooarh.....

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Very rarely see females doing construction tasks on site.
Lots of sites have had female cleaners, Romanian or from other Eastern European countries.
T Clarkes had a female sparks who I saw on a couple of sites.
Imtech had one at THFC.
Never interacted with either.
Known a couple of female Chippies away from site and a couple of female motorcycle mechanics.
Can’t say whether any are good at their jobs or not.

There is a niche market for female construction workers on the domestic side.
I recall being asked to keep a low profile at a Women’s refuge once, when visiting someone there.

Personally, I don’t think gender is an issue, it’s more a question of a person’s ability and character.

 

[Squid]

 

[Squid]

The main problem is that over the years women have been seen as the weaker sex, the two world wars proved a lot of people wrong as women went in to the factories to do the jobs that the men do, I have no problems but then again certain high risk jobs may be an issue buts thats open for discussion.

I bet the complainers and moaners go home and do as they are told by the wife as otherwise they'll get a clip around the ear.

 

[MDJ]

I like Women Electricians, worked with a couple, they were talented as well, and they make better tea than the male apprentices.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I like Women Electricians, worked with a couple, they were talented as well, and they make better tea than the male apprentices.

Obviously haven’t learnt, that to make tea badly means you stop being asked to make tea.

 

[MDJ]

Obviously haven’t learnt, that to make tea badly means you stop being asked to make tea.

Nah I just sack the bad tea makers

 

[Andy78]

Obviously haven’t learnt, that to make tea badly means you stop being asked to make tea.

My kids try that tactic. Just means they need more tea making experience

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I make tea how I like it.
My daughter prefers less milk, so she no longer allows me to make her tea.
She also won’t allow me to wash up, because I splash water on her wooden work surfaces.
Why do people have wooden work surfaces?

 

[Spoon]

She also won’t allow me to wash up, because I splash water on her wooden work surfaces.
Why do people have wooden work surfaces

I like washing up. It's relaxing.
Isn't the wooden work surface waterproof? If not then why is it a work surface?....

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I like washing up. It's relaxing.
Isn't the wooden work surface waterproof? If not then why is it a work surface?....

It’s wood, it needs to be treated every so often, during which you can’t use it.
Apparently water washes away the treatment?

 

[Andy78]

It’s wood, it needs to be treated every so often, during which you can’t use it.
Apparently water washes away the treatment?

Joiners I have worked with recommend light sanding and oiling them every month for the first two years to build up a water resistance.

 

[StephenRowley]

Every female electrician I have seen has been an exceptionally good electrician, very sharp and cluey.
Mock them at your peril !

I think because when you get women working in engineering it's because they enjoy to rather than a block he did because it's what his dad did or what is expected of blocks

 

[Spoon]

It’s wood, it needs to be treated every so often, during which you can’t use it.
Apparently water washes away the treatment?

Joiners I have worked with recommend light sanding and oiling them every month for the first two years to build up a water resistance.

You learn something new each day.
Hats off to the people who designed something you can't use and yet can sell to people silly enough to buy it...

 

[Squid]

You learn something new each day.
Hats off to the people who designed something you can't use and yet can sell to people silly enough to buy it...

Like a house made out of wood?

 

[ruston]

Like a house made out of wood?

And boats lol.

 

[ruston]

Duplicate post.

 

[Spoon]

Like a house made out of wood?

And boats lol.

Exactly... Both made out of treated wood and both functional from the start. Not "Buy this boat and oil it for 2 years to get it up to scratch"
Anyhow I'm taking this thread off course..... Soz.

We had a female on the shop floor and then moved into the office. Had no problems with her.
At my old works, some of the females were great and some were whinge buckets..... as were some of the men...

 

[Andy78]

Exactly... Both made out of treated wood and both functional from the start. Not "Buy this boat and oil it for 2 years to get it up to scratch"
Anyhow I'm taking this thread off course..... Soz.

The wood tops I have seen are usually treated with multiple coats before they go in, but they have to be regularly maintained.

Once had a customer that had a £7k granite worktop installed in a new kitchen, then the worktop was littered with small pieces of matching granite on top of it.
"They are the worktop savers as if you put anything metal on the worktop it will scratch" the customer explained. Just......bonkers.

 

[telectrix]

let's face it. most females ( and by that i mean >50% of the female population) ain't got a clue how t0 wire a plug, and would use a shoe to knock a nail in the wall for a picture. for those who have a technical bent, then as long as they are competent to pursue their chosen trade/career, then good luck to them. there's a lot of predudice against them, so for those who have made it, then good for you. ( andbtw, isuse these to trim broken nails, toenails as well, also clip the dogs' claws. occasionally used fro cutting.stripping cat5 ans alarm cables).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000IBS...t=&hvlocphy=9046457&hvtargid=pla-435531736464

 

[oracle]

When I was doing a course at college I noticed in the different trades there were several women in plumbing and carpentry but not one doing electrical.

Ethnically, in my group (17th Edition) I was the only guy who had English as a home language and even the teacher was foreign.

On the evening of the exam, one guy brought his wife and asked if she could translate for him. They obviously said no.

 

[oracle]

I can't even see a question .....

You're begging the question?
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[telectrix]

the oracle has spoken:

 

[Spoon]

Discussion forums are a way of contacting people with similar interests from all over the world

This has to be wrong.... I can't remember anyone mentioning cheese cake in any of the post...

 

[telectrix]

wtf has cheesecake got to do with the thread?
unless it's this:

 

[Spoon]

wtf has cheesecake got to do with the thread?

I blame @oracle ..... I read his post and 'cheese cake' sprung to mind.. I love cheese cake....

 

[Andy78]

You see it's our subconscious preconceptions of women that are the problem. We have the best intentions but the subject keeps drifting back to tea making, kitchens, worktops, cakes etc

 

[Squid]

let's face it. most females ( and by that i mean >50% of the female population) ain't got a clue how t0 wire a plug, and would use a shoe to knock a nail in the wall for a picture. for those who have a technical bent, then as long as they are competent to pursue their chosen trade/career, then good luck to them. there's a lot of predudice against them, so for those who have made it, then good for you. ( andbtw, isuse these to trim broken nails, toenails as well, also clip the dogs' claws. occasionally used fro cutting.stripping cat5 ans alarm cables).
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000IBS...t=&hvlocphy=9046457&hvtargid=pla-435531736464

I bet you can't boil an egg or iron a shirt........... ;o)))

 

[oracle]

After this discussion I'm getting a new toolkit

 

[Francis Bird]

... Never worked on site with women... I believe that they pay more attention to details

 

[Squid]

After this discussion I'm getting a new toolkit View attachment 44465

This is more "you" hun........

 

[Spoon]

You see it's our subconscious preconceptions of women that are the problem. We have the best intentions but the subject keeps drifting back to tea making, kitchens, worktops, cakes etc

All depends mate. In out house I do most of the cooking & washing up. I iron the kids & my shirts. If anything buttons need stitching back on (or hems of pants) then it's usually me. I'm multi-skilled... I hate gardening so the missus does that.

 

[MDJ]

You see it's our subconscious preconceptions of women that are the problem. We have the best intentions but the subject keeps drifting back to tea making, kitchens, worktops, cakes etc

And rightly so, why not lol

 

[SparkyChick]

You see it's our subconscious preconceptions of women that are the problem. We have the best intentions but the subject keeps drifting back to tea making, kitchens, worktops, cakes etc

Unfortunately for the current crop of feminists, research suggests the stereotypes aren't too far off. Women are predisposed to be drawn to roles involving nurturing/caring etc. There is no escaping many millennia of evolution

 

[telectrix]

i can boil an egg. but who irons shirts? soon as you put them on,they're creased.

 

[Spoon]

i can boil an egg. but who irons shirts? soon as you put them on,they're creased.

Never used to iron anything, until the daughter wanted to wear shirts for school.. Now I just iron all the shirts..

 

[oracle]

All depends mate. In out house I do most of the cooking & washing up. I iron the kids & my shirts. If anything buttons need stitching back on (or hems of pants) then it's usually me. I'm multi-skilled... I hate gardening so the missus does that.

Wouldn't it be kinder to blow dry the kids rather than ironing them ?