Finally! No more faffing about with Sleeve!

[Dustydazzler]

View attachment EarthSure - No More Sleeving 👀.mp4

Edit by Admin: just testing something. I added that video directly to the post by clicking the three dots and finding the insert a video button. Ideally, we need pinch them and host them ourselves. They can report the video/post.

 

[loz2754]

And it's not an April fools joke!

 

[Dan]

Testing



Testing more

 

[Dan]

[GALLERY=media, 28707][/GALLERY]

 

[Dan]

[GALLERY=media, 28707][/GALLERY]

So that bit isn't working.

 

[nicebutdim]

Edit by Admin: just testing something. I added that video directly to the post by clicking the three dots and finding the insert a video button. Ideally, we need pinch them and host them ourselves. They can report the video/post.

The place would become one big ad to meet the cost of hosting.

 

[Dan]

The place would become one big ad to meet the cost of hosting.

We have space and bandwidth. We had to, to out pace ddos attacks a few years back. Then we would just have a couple of ads on that kinda page. As you're not scrolling it's just whats in view on first visit.

I'll dig around see if I can find some that aren't part of somebody's yt income like.

It was what I chose the massive super fast ssd's on a octocore chip for in the first place. It just never really got used that way.

Can populate the area with YT embedded videos and then they get their income, its on a page that we have an ad on, and it isn't part of our space then.

Food for thought

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Loads and loads more plastic on 1000's and 1000's of metres of cable which is not even needed! Awful.

 

[nicebutdim]

Loads and loads more plastic on 1000's and 1000's of metres of cable which is not even needed! Awful.

With 1000's and 1000's more metres of green/yellow sleeving being dumped from vans/stores/wholesalers

 

[Dustydazzler]

...at least it will stop the DIy daves from just twisting all the bare earths together under one pieve of sheeve

 

[nicebutdim]

It wasn't DIY Daves who did it on occasions I find twisted earths in a single piece of sleeve. Poor Dave gets blamed for all the carp work turned out by time served electricians

 

[HappyHippyDad]

With 1000's and 1000's more metres of green/yellow sleeving being dumped from vans/stores/wholesalers

Now you're just winding me up

 

[Dustydazzler]

Not a problem for me as I am down to my last few metres of G/Y sleeve. won't be buying another hank. I will be converting over to earthsure cable once I run out of my current T&E

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Not a problem for me as I am down to my last few metres of G/Y sleeve. won't be buying another hank. I will be converting over to earthsure cable once I run out of my current T&E

Dusty, try and think a bit beyond the few minutes it will save on a consumer unit change compared to the impact on the environment.

Basically 5 minutes of time saved for a human being = 1kg of plastic (just pulling a figure out of thin air to illustrate the point)

It just doesn't make sense. Money is important, time saving is important, working more efficiently is important, a comfortable life is important, but it all needs to be weighed against the impact it causes. In this case there is a massive over balance between time saved and impact on the environment.

On average 80metres of extra plastic on a new ring when all you need to about 1m (sockets and CU).
10cm of plastic surrounding 1.5mm earth weighs (approx) 1g
therefore 79m = 79g wasted

On average lets say 250m cable used with a new build (1mm, 2.5mm, 6mm).
Roughly 250g wasted plastic.

200,000 new homes being built every year = 50,000kg of wasted plastic, just on new builds. 50 tonnes of crappy plastic to save a few minutes of popping a small piece of plastic over a few cm's of bare copper.

 

[Dustydazzler]

But if installed properly a new circuit in brand new pvc pvc cable 'should' last 100 years and more...
So I don't really buy into the 'wasted' pvc argument. I throw away loads off off cuts of sheeve every week that I either cut too short or pulled off a bit of old cable. I rarely throw away cable unless its a very short piece or very end of s drum

 

[littlespark]

What about gripping the bare cpc with pliers and pulling it as a way of stripping t&e.

I don’t think the insulation on the new stuff will cope well.




(Yes. I know. Tongue is most firmly in cheek)

 

[Dustydazzler]

Just grab the live and neutral and pull horizontally

 

[loz2754]

What about gripping the bare cpc with pliers and pulling it as a way of stripping t&e.

Just grab the live and neutral and pull horizontally

Both covered in the video ...

 

[littlespark]

Saw it advertised in YESSS this morning, and staff insisted it would be same price as regular.

 

[nicebutdim]

You'll all still be buying hanks of sleeving as none of your wholesalers stock twin brown