Help with down light spots

[DPG]

I suspect you may be putting people off with the tone of your replies. Just my opinion. Daz

 

[Brightspark2]

Give the guy a break...

As someone else has mentioned what about CFLs spots?...or speak to your wholesaler and see what they come up with, I've installed some fire rated tight space ones by ROBUS, look into them think they where 3.75 inches in old money...may of made that up though...

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[Amp David]

Yes. Please can people just read the original question and try give me a helpful answer. LEDs are a no no and yes I know halogens get hot, thats why i want one that would be suitable like the ones i fit in the past that had a rubbery costing and yes i know it is notifiable. Just proper help please

No LEDs no lighty.

Never seen any with a rubbering coating either.

Only option is to try and find a fitting that is suitable to mount on a flammable surface and use CFL lamps. Then let your very awkward customer change them for halogens him/her self.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Your only other option (as stated above ) is CFL lights. These do not get so hot, but you should try them for an hour or two in some PVC to see.

I don't think anybody knows what type

the ones i fit in the past that had a rubbery costing

are. In any event you'll have to make sure they comply with Building Regs especially those regarding the passgae, or non-passage, of moisture.

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[Amp David]

Have you considered LEDs?

 

[telectrix]

he has but his customer won't have them. IMO, he's had the best advice available , but would rather insult us, so that's my last comment on the subject.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Have you considered LEDs?

Didn't you read the rest of the thread?

 

[Des 56]

He has made aright song and dance about the replies ,so in that spirit of friendliness



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[telectrix]

and there's always light my fire.. the doors

 

[sedgy34]

you need to re educate your customer

 

[Amp David]

Didn't you read the rest of the thread?

he has but his customer won't have them. IMO, he's had the best advice available , but would rather insult us, so that's my last comment on the subject.

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Didn't you read the rest of the thread?

he has but his customer won't have them. IMO, he's had the best advice available , but would rather insult us, so that's my last comment on the subject.

you need to re educate your customer

Too true.

What about though, their taste in ceilings or lighting HaHa

 

[mayfair]

Does it make a difference if he's a spark ? the forum is here to help everyone not just an exclusive chat box for pro electricians.

Maybe we're not giving you the answer you want because we don't know of any!!! Are you a spark?

 

[Rauer]

No it doesn't but as he is doing work in a special location a bit of knowledge would be nice

 

[ruston]

Does it make a difference if he's a spark ? the forum is here to help everyone not just an exclusive chat box for pro electricians.

To be fair he was getting help.

 

[mayfair]

From some !

To be fair he was getting help.

 

[Rauer]

From some !

I believe I did help him , iirc I suggested cfl's

 

[ruston]

From some !

No one was disrespectful to him ,it was him who got cross and impatient.

 

[stef]

In kitchens and bathrooms, halogens are really not recommended. They keep burning out very quickly. A LED downligh pays back within a few months, in my experience. I replaced those dams things almost twice a month.
Nahh, concince your customer of the benefits: last forever, no fire hazard, environment friendly, cheap to run, bright, cool, ...

 

[jimmymac]

Thats what i like about this site.....we are a united front

 

[Philpot]

Stevei If the ceiling material is fit for purpose then any IP65 fire rated downlighter will be ok. It is my understanding that the downlighters fit with the ceiling as much as the ceiling fits with the downlighters.

The poroblem we have is that "Plastic" is not a description of A material.....only a group of materials. Many thermoplastic will take extreme temperatures but others will not.

You need to check with the building inspector that the ceiling material meets the regs.
Ask him if the temperature range of the downlighters is within the range that the ceiling material will stand.

The building inspector is the arbiter of this situation ....not you....or us.

If you are not talking to the building inspector then I do not want to advise you on anything.

I hope that helps

Regards Philpot