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Ok, many people come here and ask what they should be charging and how to work it out. I've been looking through my library and here is an excerpt from a book I found called 'The right way to start your own business'.
I have added some extra bits in there. I hope it's helpful to all those that ask what to charge :)


A General Trade
This sort of calculation applies in any situation where the customer will be supplied with labour and materials. The hourly rate that can be charged will depend on the general charges made in the locality.
A very good rule is that the labour charges should provide as a minimum the amount needed to meet all the costs of the business plus a minimum profit. Then any profit made on the supply of materials is a bonus. The reason for adopting this approach is that it is conceivable (if not probable) that the tradesman will pick up a run of business where all materials are supplied.
In this case, we shall be working as follows:

Fixed costs
Workshop Rent =3,600
General Insurance =740
Vehicle Tax and Insurance =540
Total =4,880

Overhead Costs:
Telephone =920
Travelling Costs =3,700
Stationary =350
Postage =350
Bank Charges =575
Accountant =600
Total =6,454

Now if the minimum we need to earn is say £15,000 a year, we add this figure to the totals above, however let's not forget we'll be taxed. So £15,000 is what we want to 'take home' after tax. We need to know the figure before a 20% deduction. A good rule of thumb is that Monday's you work for the tax man. Tuesday to Friday, you work for yourself.
Therefore we need to add 25%

15,000 * 1.25 = 18,750

Now we add all those figures together:

Fixed Costs =4,880
Overhead Costs =6,454
Earnings =18,750
Total =30,084

Our minimum hourly rate is the above figure divided by the number of actual hours work we can charge out in 12 months. For a start, we shall need time to collect materials, drive to the work place, look at work in order to provide estimates and a good deal of general running about – none of which can be charged to the customer. If we manage to achieve 30 hours charged work a week, we shall be doing quite well. Based on, say, 48 working weeks (two weeks holiday plus various bank holidays and an allowance for a few days' sickness) that means we can charge 1,440 hours per annum.

30,084/1,440 = £20.89 call it £21.

The question we have to ask is quite simple. Is this a reasonable rate for this trade in your area? You may well find that the rate charged locally in the trade you are considering is nearer £18 per hour – which is why so many tradesmen working on their own offer some sort of specialty which moves them from this category to a specialist trade.

Note:
Figures used are made up ones :)
 
£18750 per year earnings is low. You would be better off working on the cards.
 
hey James hows tricks....!!! been a long time since on-line together hijacking threads !!

it makes me respectable as i neither undercharger or rip them off...!!

actually customer tonight has just give me £25 quid beer money on top of my 275 bill...!! :D
 
Ok but if you increase the earnings figure to say £30000 then the hourly rate based on the rest of your figures rises to nearly £30.00 per hour.

What i am saying is that the rest of the figures look reasonable and could be expected but the figure for earnings seems way on the low side.
 
Ok but if you increase the earnings figure to say £30000 then the hourly rate based on the rest of your figures rises to nearly £30.00 per hour.

What i am saying is that the rest of the figures look reasonable and could be expected but the figure for earnings seems way on the low side.

I fail to see what you're driving at, as I've already said, they are made up figures and were taken from an old book. It doesn't matter what figures get put in there and they'll be different for everyone. The method of calculation is sound and you'll see it in many business books, by people who know far more than you or I about running profitable business's. Read the post fully. It also states you will have to check your area to see if your calculated rate is viable.
I put this up for those people new to business so they at least have something to work from.
Ever get the feeling you're wasting your time trying to help people?
 
Ok, many people come here and ask what they should be charging and how to work it out. I've been looking through my library and here is an excerpt from a book I found called 'The right way to start your own business'.
I have added some extra bits in there. I hope it's helpful to all those that ask what to charge :)


A General Trade
This sort of calculation applies in any situation where the customer will be supplied with labour and materials. The hourly rate that can be charged will depend on the general charges made in the locality.
A very good rule is that the labour charges should provide as a minimum the amount needed to meet all the costs of the business plus a minimum profit. Then any profit made on the supply of materials is a bonus. The reason for adopting this approach is that it is conceivable (if not probable) that the tradesman will pick up a run of business where all materials are supplied.
In this case, we shall be working as follows:

Fixed costs
Workshop Rent =3,600
General Insurance =740
Vehicle Tax and Insurance =540
Total =4,880

Overhead Costs:
Telephone =920
Travelling Costs =3,700
Stationary =350
Postage =350
Bank Charges =575
Accountant =600
Total =6,454

Now if the minimum we need to earn is say £15,000 a year, we add this figure to the totals above, however let's not forget we'll be taxed. So £15,000 is what we want to 'take home' after tax. We need to know the figure before a 20% deduction. A good rule of thumb is that Monday's you work for the tax man. Tuesday to Friday, you work for yourself.
Therefore we need to add 25%

15,000 * 1.25 = 18,750

Now we add all those figures together:

Fixed Costs =4,880
Overhead Costs =6,454
Earnings =18,750
Total =30,084

Our minimum hourly rate is the above figure divided by the number of actual hours work we can charge out in 12 months. For a start, we shall need time to collect materials, drive to the work place, look at work in order to provide estimates and a good deal of general running about – none of which can be charged to the customer. If we manage to achieve 30 hours charged work a week, we shall be doing quite well. Based on, say, 48 working weeks (two weeks holiday plus various bank holidays and an allowance for a few days' sickness) that means we can charge 1,440 hours per annum.

30,084/1,440 = £20.89 call it £21.

The question we have to ask is quite simple. Is this a reasonable rate for this trade in your area? You may well find that the rate charged locally in the trade you are considering is nearer £18 per hour – which is why so many tradesmen working on their own offer some sort of specialty which moves them from this category to a specialist trade.

Note:
Figures used are made up ones :)


good post but you have to take into account with the total workable hours the time for looking at prospective jobs and time you are not able to work i.e illness, so usually that pushes the hourly up a tad to cover yourself.
 
good post but you have to take into account with the total workable hours the time for looking at prospective jobs and time you are not able to work i.e illness, so usually that pushes the hourly up a tad to cover yourself.


Again, this has already been covered in the original post.

Our minimum hourly rate is the above figure divided by the number of actual hours work we can charge out in 12 months. For a start, we shall need time to collect materials, drive to the work place, look at work in order to provide estimates and a good deal of general running about – none of which can be charged to the customer. If we manage to achieve 30 hours charged work a week, we shall be doing quite well. Based on, say, 48 working weeks (two weeks holiday plus various bank holidays and an allowance for a few day's sickness ) that means we can charge 1,440 hours per annum.

:rolleyes:
 
Again, this has already been covered in the original post.



:rolleyes:


sure, sorry if I've come across unclear but still think it a lttle low as I would be inclined to think that 30 hrs a week is not always going to be achievable. if that was set in stone great.

Its difficult thats for sure. especially now, no matter how we do the sums.

mostly to be fair with clients with regard to earning enough to cover quiet patches.


regards.
 
No problem Marty,

Like I said, it isn't written in stone it's a guide. Although if we all adopted that approach we might all be a little richer ;)
I just thought it would be helpful to those starting out.
 
Good info the Voltimax, allows anyone a rough idea..

I myself work out at around £30 per hour on a similar system. So I use two rates, £25 ph to regulars to be competitive, and £35 per hour for callout and reactive work.

Law of averages works out well.






Although I do charge £75 per hour for troubleshooting..
 
I think it is crucial to do it that way to identify the minimum line otherwise you'll have a struggle on your hands even when times are good.


The prob is some people don't work out sensible pricing that are fair for the lecky and the client buy simply going in low to get the work... buggers it all up then to an extent.
 

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