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I think it has a wire going in to the ground/concrete/chipboard covering big hole.Is next door earthed? looks like the conduit has been earthed at some point
I think the earth wire was cut off when they replaced the old black fusesIs next door earthed? looks like the conduit has been earthed at some point
Call the DNO SP Energy down here they normally attend site within 2 hours
Hi thanks I have sent them a message and photo of it. However I wanted some advice from you guys in case the try to say it's ok.Is next door earthed? looks like the conduit has been earthed at some point
Call the DNO SP Energy down here they normally attend site within 2 hours
If they say it is ok there is little you can do other than make a note of the contact with them for future reference, I had something similar a few years ago, I'm surprised they didn't swap the cable when they changed the service headHi thanks I have sent them a message and photo of it. However I wanted some advice from you guys in case the try to say it's ok.
Hi thanks no earth at my end there was but was cut of when they changed the service head. Just had the faulty meter changed (that's another story!) guy said he would also mention the old cables in his report.The conduit containing those wires must be earthed, and well enough to deal with a really big fault. No idea if it is earthed somewhere out of sight though.
The other issue is they are almost certainly VIR (vulcanised Indian rubber) insulated wires. In most cases the rubber perishes and becomes brittle so dangerous if anything causes movement. They might be OK, miracles do happen, but you have the right attitude of not touching them at all.
The results of a short anywhere exposed to you has the very real risk of 3rd degree burns from the arc-flash and possible eyesight damage, not to mention a house fire risk and electric shock.
My cable is earthed but the cable to next door is no, it was cut off when service head was replaced some year ago.I think it has a wire going in to the ground/concrete/chipboard covering big hole.
But it looks skanky as hell and really need the DNO's attention!
Will do, I will be pushing it if they don't do any thing about it. (just had a problem with my electric meter my energy supplier was not very helpful. So I explained to them if any thing were to happen they would end up court. Result emergency call out on Friday night meter replaced today)OP keep us updated, I would be interested what the DNO say/do.
OP keep us updated, I would be interested what the DNO say/do.
UPDATE Company carried out survey for SPEN saying the preferred option was to keep the looped service. As it a concrete floor in that part of the house (used to store the coal at one time) they would have to go up and over. They want to run the cable up the wall then up the bedroom wall along the loft space and same for next door. Told the was not having that (bat enough with the shower cable taking that route). Spoke to them on the phone today they saying that's the only way as it concrete floor. I would have thought they could bring a new supply up the wall next door and cover with protection plate, so said that to them so they now going to pass it back to Scottish Power Energy NetworksSP Energy Networks sent someone out as an emergency to check it. Said it was ok just now but would have to be replaced. Does not understand why it was not replaced when new service head was done. Spoke about putting new cable through conduit. Told him not happy about doing that so said they would probably put in new service for next door. Thanks for everyone's advice on this.
That would be too easy, the problem is the DNO is split into several divisions all doing their separate bit, it is highly likely the person who upgraded the service head wouldn't have a clue about the need to replace those, nor would the person fitting the meter etc etc... there was once a time many decades ago when they had skilled people who did the job lot and knew their stuff and this would never have been left like that.I'm surprised they didn't swap the cable when they changed the service head
The guy that replace the meter said he would put the cable in the report he had to put in.That would be too easy, the problem is the DNO is split into several divisions all doing their separate bit, it is highly likely the person who upgraded the service head wouldn't have a clue about the need to replace those, nor would the person fitting the meter etc etc... there was once a time many decades ago when they had skilled people who did the job lot and knew their stuff and this would never have been left like that.
Thanks, yes I have sent an email to SPEN explaining that this is not on.Stick to your guns. The problem is with next door's supply, not yours. It's not your problem how they get a new supply to next door, nor should it inconvenience you in any way..
If it was a new build next door, they wouldn't be wanting to "run it up your bedroom wall", so don't let them now.
I would have concerns about the safety of having a live DNO cable run internally within the property the way that has been suggested and I do wonder if a risk assessment of that route would consider it safeUPDATE Company carried out survey for SPEN saying the preferred option was to keep the looped service. As it a concrete floor in that part of the house (used to store the coal at one time) they would have to go up and over. They want to run the cable up the wall then up the bedroom wall along the loft space and same for next door. Told the was not having that (bat enough with the shower cable taking that route). Spoke to them on the phone today they saying that's the only way as it concrete floor. I would have thought they could bring a new supply up the wall next door and cover with protection plate, so said that to them so they now going to pass it back to Scottish Power Energy Networks
Thanks, yes I have sent an email to SPEN explaining that this is not on.
Hi Guys,
I have a looped service in my house, concerned about the cable going next door. It looks old and brittle (I have not touched) . It was installed about 1955, do you think SP Energy Networks would replace the cable
UPDATE Yesterday new supply put in to house next door and looped service removed from my house.OP keep us updated, I would be interested what the DNO say/do.
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