UK Metal bathroom cabinet with inbuilt shaver socket not earthed

[stevethesparks]

Out of interest, does it have the class II double insulated symbol on it? Not that I think it warrants one!

It cant be Double Insulated it must be class 1 as there is a cpc. But what the cpc actually protects I'm not too sure. The tape alone over the connections looks RAF and no additional insulation/protection on those crimp joints. It looks like a quick home workshop effort.
I bet you could have fun running a volt pen around it and feeling the almost static effect around the edges.

 

[DPG]

It cant be Double Insulated it must be class 1 as there is a cpc. But what the cpc actually protects I'm not too sure. The tape alone over the connections looks RAF and no additional insulation/protection on those crimp joints. It looks like a quick home workshop effort.
I bet you could have fun running a volt pen around it and feeling the almost static effect around the edges.

Good point, I'd forgot about that!

 

[stevethesparks]

but I cannot think of a reason that a shavers socket would not require a cpc. Even though they are an isolating transformer, the core should have a cpc in case of breakdown of insulation between the windings and to the core.

Unknown to me, there are apparently class II construction shavers sockets - my bad.
However, whether it complies and the CE mark etc are genuine or not, it still looks of very poor construction.

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Socket Outlets For Shavers: What Do You Need To Consider?

There are two basic types of socket-outlet intended to supply an electric shaver: The type with a transformer, and The type without. With certain exceptions only the type with a transformer may be ins

professional-electrician.com

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[Lucien Nunes]

Does the transformer claim to be made to BS EN 61558-2-5 or even any recognised standard for isolating transformers?

I wonder what makes someone think: 'How do we make these wire nuts safer in case loose strands are poking out? Oh of course, masking tape, that's exactly the thing for the job...'

 

[stevethesparks]

Does the transformer claim to be made to BS EN 61558-2-5 or even any recognised standard for isolating transformers?

I wonder what makes someone think: 'How do we make these wire nuts safer in case loose strands are poking out? Oh of course, masking tape, that's exactly the thing for the job...'

I tried looking up the requirements of BS EN 61558-2-5 and the site wanted about £137 from me. Hence I'm still at a loss.

 

[loz2754]

This is quite interesting:

Socket Outlets For Shavers: What Do You Need To Consider?

There are two basic types of socket-outlet intended to supply an electric shaver: The type with a transformer, and The type without. With certain exceptions only the type with a transformer may be ins

professional-electrician.com

 

[DPG]

This is quite interesting:

Socket Outlets For Shavers: What Do You Need To Consider?

There are two basic types of socket-outlet intended to supply an electric shaver: The type with a transformer, and The type without. With certain exceptions only the type with a transformer may be ins

professional-electrician.com

I read something about that years ago but had forgotten all about it. How many people were aware of it I wonder? Honest answers ?

 

[stevethesparks]

This is quite interesting:

Socket Outlets For Shavers: What Do You Need To Consider?

There are two basic types of socket-outlet intended to supply an electric shaver: The type with a transformer, and The type without. With certain exceptions only the type with a transformer may be ins

professional-electrician.com

But what are the requirements for BS EN 61558-2-5 - without forking out £137

 

[loz2754]

The requirements are basically mentioned in the article, though not in great detail.

 

[stevethesparks]

I was more interested in the double insulated type
I wonder what type of core would be used, is there a material available that is both ferromagnetic and does not conduct electricity? Was interested as in my first post (and wrongly) expected a cpc connection in case of a fault.