I'm going to be honest with you. A lot of people who do the apprenticeship straight from school do so because they're thick and not going to get anywhere in life so an apprenticeship is pretty much the difference between having a trade or working in HMV.
Most of the thick apprentices I've come across never made the grade and couldn't pass the AM2
Some turn out quite well, others don't. Nowadays they seem to be a lot lazier than when I was doing my apprenticeship 10 years ago.
I think that went some way to killing off apprenticeships as they had no interest and the brighter school leavers are being pushed towards uni and getting a degree
In fact I'd probably have more faith in someone who has ploughed his or her own redundancy money into learning a new skill over someone who left school with minimal qualifications and spent most of their time footing a ladder or making off plug tops.
Throwing money at things seems to be the cure all attitude to any problem these days when hard work is mentioned
So all this "An Apprentice Trained and Qualified Electrician has in my opinion, Every Right to put himself above any of these jokers above, that think they are qualified, they damn well ''ain't''!!" is balls to be honest.
No matter how you try you cannot condense around 120 - 150 9 hour college days into a 5 week course that alone puts an apprentice trained spark above a Electrical Trainee
Thats right like a dog with a bone, i want to be your worst nightmare, i want you to suffer and see how you like it. I dont touch part p at the moment thats not to say when i get NIC i won't is it, surely that is obvious!
Retreat?? are you kidding i've not started yet, not even warmed up
You are one of the many reasons the police get the respect they actually deserve, with your obnoxious confrontational arrogance you actually need to step back and take a look at yourself your comments on here belie your limited training apparently everything is wrong with this industry because it doesn't suit YOU.
The regs have changed a number of times over the last 40 years and a hell of a lot of books have been bought and old ones binned it's just one of the many changes that have occurred along with the dumbing down of entry into the industry that means we have to read your drivel
People have a right to post their views/opinions etc rightly or wrongly in a public forum, we have a right to respond or ignore the posts as we see fit. What we don't have is the right to offend or belittle people because they are not Electricians and are posting in the Electricians forum asking for advice etc etc for whatever reason, this is what gets us a bad name.
People also need to back off and understand their questions are being ignored and not continue to bump their question or add an aggressive post to prompt an answer they don't want
This forum is run by a handful of people who put a hell of a lot of time and effort into it for no reward, it only takes a few snide remarks to undo all their hard work, so remember this the next time you choose to "have a go".
I think the DIY forum is an excellent idea, i am more than happy to post and advise in there, and this is why. Over the years i have been on no end of forums looking for advice about no end of different things, and for the most part the advice given has been excellent, even when that advice was not was i was wanting to hear like "I suggest you contact a diesel specialist".
Unfortunately some people believe they are beyond DIY level. When you were told to "contact a diesel specialist" did you kick off or did you accept the advice as some on here may learn something from your experience
Why do Electricians see themselves as being above everyone else just because we did an Apprenticeship? We are not the only apprentice trained trade out there, and we are not the only trade who has people in it without formal qualifications.
Because some don't know what a C&G 236, 2360, 2330 is and you don't get the qualification in a few days it usually results from having done an apprenticeship
This post is not aimed at any one particular person, nor is intended to offend, but some people need to grow up and show some maturity. The best trades people will always prevail, irrespective of their background.
And some need to understand and accept the level they are at and not take the word of someone who has just taken £4 or £5k off them and told them they are an electrician
Steady on there Regs, debate and lively banter is acceptable but personal attacks is starting to cross the boundary ....... there is a mod watching you somewhere!
I'm sure his surname is McCain as he certainly has a bags of chips on his shoulder
With a name like Regs and he doesn't like the regs what can you say
