More part P quality installation

[Welchyboy1]

Just arrived at a job today to change a CU, after bit of testing found N-E fault on upstairs ring, went up stairs and found this!


this was installed by a bedroom fitter, last week, the lady asked for some extra double sockets and one had to be moved in her bedroom which the fitter done before plastering, then was coming back to fit the bedroom units afterwards

he told the lady he was also a registered electrician(was part p elecsa), charged her £200 cash for this and it took him all day apparently!

i have not altered any of this before the photos this is as was installed!

he left the blue tape on the back box as he cracked it and said he would change it later

i ripped it all out and re installed it for her afterwards

it doesnt even look like he used new kit, i think it was old stuff from another job

Cant believe he didnt get the cable under the floor at least, and what a way to extend a ring circuit

 

[GMES]

Holy ----, Wait till trev see's this , another one for the Campaign

 

[Welchyboy1]

I may start adding one each week to this thread, its becoming so regular

 

[Simonslimline]

That really is shockingly bad. How does the guy sleep at night

 

[GMES]

That really is shockingly bad. How does the guy sleep at night

Probably quite easily!.
I think the thing is, sometimes you can't see how dangerous something is if your not an Electrician,so therefore leaving something like the above doesn't register on a pet mongs conscience.

 

[Simonslimline]

Probably quite easily!.
I think the thing is, sometimes you can't see how dangerous something is if your not an Electrician,so therefore leaving something like the above doesn't register on a pet mongs conscience.

The idiot should stick to what he does and leave the electrics well alone.

 

[tazz]

Biggest problem is the bloke who install it, thinks he`s done a good job....that`s were the issues start.

 

[GMES]

Biggest problem is the bloke who install it, thinks he`s done a good job....that`s were the issues start.

Which is what I tried saying in #5
If they don't know what they are doing,then they clearly can't see that what they do is dangerous!

 

[trev]

Holy ----, Wait till trev see's this , another one for the Campaign

Trev just saw it and yes you're right.

I may start adding one each week to this thread, its becoming so regular

Welchy, don't just stick them on here as al they're good for here is giving us a laugh at what people think is acceptable. You know where I want these and the story behind them mate.

 

[mayfair]

Possibly the biggest fool is the client surely anyone can see just by looking that somethings not quiet right. Not trying to be ofensive here but surely no one would payout (to one of us) if we had asked for money for that taped up shower of S**t

 

[Sparky Pat]

This is another example that can be sent to Elecsa along with the photos taken by UK Sparks on his thread. Don't suppose he issued a certificate?

 

[Welchyboy1]

This is another example that can be sent to Elecsa along with the photos taken by UK Sparks on his thread. Don't suppose he issued a certificate?

Certs in post apparently, i dont know what its gonna say cause i was there to change the board and until then there was no bonding or rcd protection

 

[TheHUNTED]

Diabolical.

 

[GMES]

Certs in post apparently, i dont know what its gonna say cause i was there to change the board and until then there was no bonding or rcd protection

It will probably be His 100 yard swimming certificate!

 

[R G]

He must have stripped those cables with his teeth , Out of interest what did the customer think of it ??

 

[GMES]

he must have stripped those cables with his teeth , out of interest what did the customer think of it ??

shocking

 

[R G]

shocking

I bet the guy said to the lady , Yeh I can do lectric's you see anyone can do it , its only 3 wires init , what can go wrong

 

[uksparks]

It will probably be His 100 yard swimming certificate!

It won't be that, he will need that for when the crap plumbing job he does for the next person springs a leak!

 

[MerlinGremlin]

Part P is a joke, how someone can walk away from that is unbelievable and there giving true electricians a bad bad name. Why can a bedroom fitter be allowed to do this and get away with it because he's part P, should be called part **** take, disgusting.

 

[R G]

How can anybody sleep in one of his bedroom re fits after he's messed with the sockets , come to think of it how can anybody live in the house...
What a mess...

 

[varilite]

He's not part MNO or P he just said he was

 

[shanky887614]

How can anybody sleep in one of his bedroom re fits after he's messed with the sockets , come to think of it how can anybody live in the house...
What a mess...

im exactly the same, I wont live in any house that certain builders etc have been involved in

 

[trev]

I'd love it if the clown who did this came on to try to defend himself.

 

[camerabloke]

Imagine that. It would be carnage

 

[GMES]

Yeah get him on I am getting Hungry now!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

nowt new here then....

all these examples need to be properly logged.....backed up.....

 

[shanky887614]

Yeah get him on I am getting Hungry now!

im hungry too, my goodfellas is nearly ready

 

[trev]

Their pizzas are the work of Satan.

 

[dazza1981]

I'd love it if the clown who did this came on to try to defend himself.

Well i will try and defend myself as this is one of my best installs...... is leaving 6 inches of copper sticking out of the terminals not acceptable Trev ??
I measured that trunking 5 times with a snapped ruler before i super glued it to the wall so i dont know why its short ???
I accidentally drilled the entry whole to high in the socket and then it bloody cracked...... perhaps it was because i had my sds drill on hammer ????
Oh and the joint box is because i tapped off the shower to feed a fan ???
Was my 17 day course worth it Trev ??? I paid my scheme the annually fee and the said crack on son !!!! :Angel_anim:

Sorry chaps just banter but these dik heads need stopping now !!!!!!!
Hope everyones good this evening !!!!

 

[telectrix]

from bodged electrics to a gravity defying pizza. what fun.

 

[Andy78]

That oven's contents falls well short of the requirements of Part P(izza). You've got salami not installed within zones, use of inferior components, lack of RCD (red pepper, chili, dried oregano) for additional toppings, and I doubt it would pass a proper test.

Disgraceful.

 

[Zebra Stripe]

Its quite funny watching you 10 or so guys, whipping yourselves up into a frenzy as though your some sort of national representation of electrical policemen…reminds me of Mary Whitehouse from the 80's.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Just arrived at a job today to change a CU, after bit of testing found N-E fault on upstairs ring, went up stairs and found this!


this was installed by a bedroom fitter, last week, the lady asked for some extra double sockets and one had to be moved in her bedroom which the fitter done before plastering, then was coming back to fit the bedroom units afterwards

he told the lady he was also a registered electrician(was part p elecsa), charged her £200 cash for this and it took him all day apparently!

i have not altered any of this before the photos this is as was installed!

he left the blue tape on the back box as he cracked it and said he would change it later

i ripped it all out and re installed it for her afterwards

it doesnt even look like he used new kit, i think it was old stuff from another job

Cant believe he didnt get the cable under the floor at least, and what a way to extend a ring circuit

Lovely stuff ....... More ammunition for Rommel Skelton & his Panzers!!

 

[R G]

The biggest failing of part P is really this sort of thing is happening all over and because someone can come in and claim to be registered and willing to issue certificates , actually makes the homeowner feel confident about the work and the butcher in this case ..

 

[trev]

The biggest failing of part P is really this sort of thing is happening all over and because someone can come in and claim to be registered and willing to issue certificates , actually makes the homeowner feel confident about the work and the butcher in this case ..

In theory, part p was a good idea. In practice it is a absolute bloody disaster (as we all know)

 

[jimmymac]

Part what?...never heard of it! O.P, that job looks more like a very bad DIY to me. Are you sure the customer isn't spinning you a tale?

 

[telectrix]

Its quite funny watching you 10 or so guys, whipping yourselves up into a frenzy as though your some sort of national representation of electrical policemen…reminds me of Mary Whitehouse from the 80's.

so who else is going to bring an end to this part pee farce. the select committee? only if we give them enough ammunition and make quality work more important than scams' cash cow.

 

[R G]

so who else is going to bring an end to this part pee farce. the select committee? only if we give them enough ammunition and make quality work more important than scams' cash cow.

Agree completely , everyone can see whats posted on here , scams an all , where better to highlight the issues that we all face ..
as a matter of fact where else is there ..

 

[jimmymac]

Agree completely , everyone can see whats posted on here , scams an all , where better to highlight the issues that we all face ..
as a matter of fact where else is there ..

I often find myself writing the electrical issues I have on the walls of public toilet cubicles, along with my phone number for contact...although, I must confess, I do get some odd calls

 

[trev]

so who else is going to bring an end to this part pee farce. the select committee? only if we give them enough ammunition and make quality work more important than scams' cash cow.

The only people who can bring an end to this farce is us lot

 

[R G]

I often find myself writing the electrical issues I have on the walls of public toilet cubicles, along with my phone number for contact...although, I must confess, I do get some odd calls

Whats your phone number ? I could get you on the local toilet doors round my way . with that weasel photo as well. your bound to get a lot of business..LOl..

 

[jimmymac]

Whats your phone number ? I could get you on the local toilet doors round my way . with that weasel photo as well. your bound to get a lot of business..LOl..

Your millennium post and you've wasted it replying to my nonsense It's not weasel!

 

[jaypp]

Just arrived at a job today to change a CU, after bit of testing found N-E fault on upstairs ring, went up stairs and found this!


this was installed by a bedroom fitter, last week, the lady asked for some extra double sockets and one had to be moved in her bedroom which the fitter done before plastering, then was coming back to fit the bedroom units afterwards

he told the lady he was also a registered electrician(was part p elecsa), charged her £200 cash for this and it took him all day apparently!

i have not altered any of this before the photos this is as was installed!

he left the blue tape on the back box as he cracked it and said he would change it later

i ripped it all out and re installed it for her afterwards

it doesnt even look like he used new kit, i think it was old stuff from another job

Cant believe he didnt get the cable under the floor at least, and what a way to extend a ring circuit

Certs in post apparently, i dont know what its gonna say cause i was there to change the board and until then there was no bonding or rcd protection

Generally, cash job means no invoice/guarantee/certs or competence in this case. Did the fitter know the board was being updated and hence knew that would need testing and certifying? Call me suspicious, but you can see the scenario;
client: 'we've got an electrician coming, so we will get him to add/move sockets'
fitter: 'electricians are expensive you know, and probably won't have time if changing board, I could do it etc...and you'll be covered by their cert'

Looking at that surface box, are you sure he isn't a kitchen fitter?!!

 

[GMES]

Are you a polecat

 

[Knobhead]

You lot pay the scams, only you can do something about it.

Stop paying then until they pull their corporate fingers out and set acceptable standards.

 

[jimmymac]

Are you a polecat

Ferret/Polecat...same animal...well done Glenn!

 

[Engineer54]

Same O, same O ..... you'll all comment on just how bad this or that install is, but you'll not lift a finger to do anything about it, and that's why the UK industry is in the Shyte it's in today!!

 

[southsea1201]

You're all in a frenzy....I think you need to definitively ascertain that this guy is registered with Elecsa beyond all doubt. Welchboy get his name from the client and log his post code in here Electrical Safety Register - Find your local, registered electrical contractor IF he is NICEIC or ELECSA he will be listed....if he is then proceed with the lynching. Not sure with Napit checks...I guess you will need to go to their website.

 

[Richard Burns]

You're all in a frenzy....I think you need to definitively ascertain that this guy is registered with Elecsa beyond all doubt. Welchboy get his name from the client and log his post code in here Electrical Safety Register - Find your local, registered electrical contractor IF he is NICEIC or ELECSA he will be listed....if he is then proceed with the lynching. Not sure with Napit checks...I guess you will need to go to their website.

Don't use biased sites to search for competent persons use Competent Persons Register | Home as this covers everyone and is not directed toward any specific organisation. (although I suppose you could use http://www.electricalcompetentperson.co.uk/ after 30 June 2014 for just electricians)

 

[southsea1201]

You are right Richard, Napit members are listed aswell :icon4: