Discuss New DNO notification form for EV and Heat Pumps etc in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Gavin John Hyde

-
Esteemed
Arms
Patron
Reaction score
5,173
There is a new form on the horizon for EV charge points.
Some interesting criteria now apply, If you are not sure what the fuse is then you must submit the form in advance of install regardless of max demand.
At present if the MD is <60 amps you can notify once installed.
Most of mine are done in advance anyway, keeps me in WPDs good books when I need a favour doing!
SSEN region is not so problematic as you can pull the fuse.
Some DNOS allow you to pull the fuse some dont so not sure how this will work for some installers. seems like they are moving towards a process where all but a handful of installs are pre-approved. At moment its like the wild west with some companies including a national one with initials BG, lots of blue vans and also fit boilers fitting them to 60A looped supplies without CT clamps and a MD through the roof - naughty naughty!

What really catches my eye is that in the new guidance the CT clamp / grid monitoring must be fail safe - ie if it comes loose, or signal is lost charger must not operate to prevent MD overloading the main fuse. G100 and current ENA rules do stipulate hardwired CTs for load management when purpose of Ct is to protect the fuse rather than simply monitor the energy being pulled in. Not sure how this will factor in with the harvis on the zappi chargers yet.
 

Attachments

  • Single-Electric-Vehicle-Charge-Point-and-Heat-Pump-Installation-Application-Form.pdf
    284.3 KB · Views: 43
There is a new form on the horizon for EV charge points.
Some interesting criteria now apply, If you are not sure what the fuse is then you must submit the form in advance of install regardless of max demand.
At present if the MD is <60 amps you can notify once installed.
Most of mine are done in advance anyway, keeps me in WPDs good books when I need a favour doing!
SSEN region is not so problematic as you can pull the fuse.
Some DNOS allow you to pull the fuse some dont so not sure how this will work for some installers. seems like they are moving towards a process where all but a handful of installs are pre-approved. At moment its like the wild west with some companies including a national one with initials BG, lots of blue vans and also fit boilers fitting them to 60A looped supplies without CT clamps and a MD through the roof - naughty naughty!

What really catches my eye is that in the new guidance the CT clamp / grid monitoring must be fail safe - ie if it comes loose, or signal is lost charger must not operate to prevent MD overloading the main fuse. G100 and current ENA rules do stipulate hardwired CTs for load management when purpose of Ct is to protect the fuse rather than simply monitor the energy being pulled in. Not sure how this will factor in with the harvis on the zappi chargers yet.

There is a new form on the horizon for EV charge points.
Some interesting criteria now apply, If you are not sure what the fuse is then you must submit the form in advance of install regardless of max demand.
At present if the MD is <60 amps you can notify once installed.
Most of mine are done in advance anyway, keeps me in WPDs good books when I need a favour doing!
SSEN region is not so problematic as you can pull the fuse.
Some DNOS allow you to pull the fuse some dont so not sure how this will work for some installers. seems like they are moving towards a process where all but a handful of installs are pre-approved. At moment its like the wild west with some companies including a national one with initials BG, lots of blue vans and also fit boilers fitting them to 60A looped supplies without CT clamps and a MD through the roof - naughty naughty!

What really catches my eye is that in the new guidance the CT clamp / grid monitoring must be fail safe - ie if it comes loose, or signal is lost charger must not operate to prevent MD overloading the main fuse. G100 and current ENA rules do stipulate hardwired CTs for load management when purpose of Ct is to protect the fuse rather than simply monitor the energy being pulled in. Not sure how this will factor in with the harvis on the zappi chargers yet.
Dont know why the DNO dont do the visit and assess the situation themselves.. they can then do any necessary upgrades if thats required.
If they make it too difficult to apply then people wont bother to notify and then they wont get any info, which rather misses the point of all these energy requirements and while theyre about it why not fit a smart meter too?
It took them over 2 months to reply to my pre-installation form for a charger, I just went ahead anyway.. fortunately they said yes :)
 

Reply to New DNO notification form for EV and Heat Pumps etc in the UK Electrical Forum area at ElectriciansForums.net

Similar Threads

Hi guys, I hope you're all doing ok in this heat!! I have recently carried out an EICR on a domestic property where it failed miserably. The...
Replies
6
Views
6K
Hi, Similar'ish question to my other thread but little more info now so a different approach but sorry if duplication. UK, single phase. Just had...
Replies
0
Views
1K
Can anyone recommend an EV charger brand/type with load curtailment (throttling) which is easy to interface by manufacturers design, with a remote...
Replies
7
Views
6K
Those involved with ev charger installs will be aware that we should carry out a site / pre works survey to ascertain the current max load with...
Replies
2
Views
747
I had an email this week from PodPoint. The new Pod Point Solo EV charger does not require an earth rod and can be used with PME. It has in built...
Replies
14
Views
5K

OFFICIAL SPONSORS

Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Electrician Courses Green Electrical Goods PCB Way Electrical Goods - Electrical Tools - Brand Names Pushfit Wire Connectors Electric Underfloor Heating Electrician Courses
These Official Forum Sponsors May Provide Discounts to Regular Forum Members - If you would like to sponsor us then CLICK HERE and post a thread with who you are, and we'll send you some stats etc

Electrical Forum

Welcome to the Electrical Forum at ElectriciansForums.net. The friendliest electrical forum online. General electrical questions and answers can be found in the electrical forum.
This website was designed, optimised and is hosted by Untold Media. Operating under the name Untold Media since 2001.
Back
Top
AdBlock Detected

We get it, advertisements are annoying!

Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website. For the best site experience please disable your AdBlocker.

I've Disabled AdBlock