Pendant light with no colour coded wires

[Richard Burns]

If polarity of the line and neutral isn't an issue as long as the earth is good, am I good to go as long as I make sure the earth is connwcted correctly....which I'm confident in doing

If polarity of the line and neutral isn't an issue as long as the earth is good, am I good to go as long as I make sure the earth is connwcted correctly....which I'm confident in doing

I think you have not quite followed that the three cores that are clear are probably (not definitely) line, neutral and earth.

The green wire is earth as well; there would be two wires going to the earth terminal on the ceiling.


For the three clear wires there are six options as pictured below, the ones connected via blue arrows will be, in this case, equivalent.

However if your identification is wrong then the light fitting could be deadly as the metal body could become live.

It is important to know which wire is which to avoid connecting a live cable to the body of the fitting.

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[The Ghost]

drawings are great

Not worried about neutral to live then?

 

[md77]

I think you have not quite followed that the three cores that are clear are probably (not definitely) line, neutral and earth.

The green wire is earth as well; there would be two wires going to the earth terminal on the ceiling.


For the three clear wires there are six options as pictured below, the ones connected via blue arrows will be, in this case, equivalent.

However if your identification is wrong then the light fitting could be deadly as the metal body could become live.

It is important to know which wire is which to avoid connecting a live cable to the body of the fitting.

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Thanks for the great options, I'll not be able to get to this until Christmas day now, however the 2 wires on the left were cable tied together so I'd assumed they were the same ....looking more like a job for a pro!

 

[HandySparks]

... however the 2 wires on the left were cable tied together so I'd assumed they were the same ....

Noo!
Never assume with electrics. One day it'll catch you out and it'll all go wrong!

 

[Rpa07]

You're mistaking the 3 plate for the incomers and switch wire - it's a good diagram - let's see you do better (I'm not going to)

Not worried about neutral to live then?

 

[The Ghost]

Not worried then.

 

[The Ghost]

Just knocked this up didn't sleeve the sw return to avoid confusion

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[telectrix]

call the plaster monkey back with the words " you took it off, now put it back. if you could not be arsed to mark the cables, then pay a spark tofix it".

 

[Rpa07]

Explain

Not worried then.

 

[The Ghost]

I've never quoted my own message

Nope its only you can see it.

 

[The Ghost]

Explain

I mean about the neutral to live, you're not worried I conclude.

 

[Rpa07]

I can, I'm sure see a brown line down one and a grey OR light blue on another - that's why I'm miffed that no one else can! Still it's not my job, just trying to point it out! Smiling!

 

[Rpa07]

@Vortigern Speak English, man!

Edit : comma in correct place

 

[The Ghost]

Which English man are you wanting to speak? Think there is quite a few on here if I'm not mistaken. And try not to go off-topic.

 

[Rpa07]

Just knocked this up didn't sleeve the sw return to avoid confusion

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Good drawing by the way, not as good as Richard burns or Jimchav but good all the same!

 

[The Ghost]

I hate art critics.

 

[Rpa07]

@Vortigern can't PM you! How much time off for Christmas?

 

[The Ghost]

Don't do Christmas so business as usual really, may take a few days off as it is a bit quiet for some reason. Who is that Chav Jim you mention?

 

[Rpa07]

Few days then - question answered. Happy Hannukah.

 

[7029 dave]

IMO you need to get continuity testing, what are the lamp holders, bc, ses ,es, not that it matters well it does because you need to know where to test from.

 

[md77]

Keys left with neighbours, sparky came in and fitted it and has marked the wires for future.....Thanks everyone for your help!

 

[Marvo]

Glad you got a sparky in, it was one of those things that was going to take 2 minutes with the appropriate tester but it could have ended badly if you'd taken a guess and got it wrong.

 

[Idpost]

The G/Y wire will earth the rose part of the fitting. As for the 3 clear wires, one will be live, one neutral and the 3rd will earth the lower part of the fitting. The wires should be marked with the appropriate colours, but if they're not then as others have said you will need a continuity tester to determine which is which.

 

[Midwest]

The G/Y wire will earth the rose part of the fitting. As for the 3 clear wires, one will be live, one neutral and the 3rd will earth the lower part of the fitting. The wires should be marked with the appropriate colours, but if they're not then as others have said you will need a continuity tester to determine which is which.

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