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Winston was a great guy, but was he in the same league as this one!
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Winston was a great guy, but was he in the same league as this one!
A good leader in time of need? Maybe.
A great guy? I think not.
While firm, decisive leadership was what was needed at the time and provided by Churchill would his rousing speeches have been so successful if Hitler had launched Operation Sea Lion instead of Operation Barbarossa?
However, Hitler screwed up and his mistake ended up costing Germany everything.
OK maybe it's more about striking a balance then, and remembering the person for what they stood out for the most.Either way, it's customary to remember the dead for what they accomplished, not for their shortcomings.
That would be a fine sentiment if that were indeed the case Adam
An extreem example I know,but I would think the relatives of the victims of Harold Shipman have his qualities as a medical practitioner who healed the sick at the very bottom of what is customary for them to remember
Any man needs to be remembered as a whole,its not good to only cherry pick the parts that suit
OK maybe it's more about striking a balance then, and remembering the person for what they stood out for the most.
Harold Shipman may have healed the sick, but that was his job. Thousands of GPs heal the sick every day without special recognition. Overall though Shipman was a terrible GP because he killed his patients, which is what he will be remembered for.
Likewise Jimmy Saville nearly went down in history for all his charity work, until it came out that he was history's most profligate nonce, and he'll be remembered as that instead.
Winston Churchill is most often remembered as the prime minister who won the war; there have been several other prime ministers who have upset the miners.
So that makes his actions acceptable?there have been several other prime ministers who have upset the miners.
What about Catholic terrorists? did he see the coming of them?A great man, he also saw the coming of Islamic terrorists.
Brilliantly pointed out.Sorry to have to disrupt this thread again
I know it was set up to honour a person and maybe the rest of the posts will reflect the sentiment of the opening post
however I want to respond to the above
Your quote about the miners misses the whole point I have made in this thread
It was not to attack the person who many adore,it was to point out,for good or bad, that he was more than just the war hero,when he is remembered,it is right that we remember him for all his actions, not just the ones that sit comfortable with the people
Yes politicians of all sorts have screwed not only the miners but most workers over the years,it is going on now with this industry
That is not the point
It was an industrial dispute that could have meant life or death to those workers (if they accepted the owners actions) they had to do what was necessary to survive
Unlike all other political leaders,this man Churchill turned the British army out in battle mode against his own people in an industrial dispute,that can never be forgotten when he his saluted for his achievement's
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