SY, CY None Compliant????

[davesparks]

What made you choose SY for that application? I can't see what advantage it could have over a common rubber sheathed flex in that environment?

And why use YY for a cooker and not a heat resistant flex?

 

[High Tower]

The reason for using the SY is that the part derelict building has SWA's, Conduits, T&E running everywhere. so SY stood out like a sore thumb in contrast to all the dead circuits that were still in. and yes i used the correct glands.

 

[davesparks]

The reason for using the SY is that the part derelict building has SWA's, Conduits, T&E running everywhere. so SY stood out like a sore thumb in contrast to all the dead circuits that were still in. and yes i used the correct glands.

Interesting, I hadn't thought of that.

I might have used blue or orange flex, but only because I've got a shed load of it gathering dust in stores

 

[Leesparkykent]

On a job recently the aircon guys used SY everywhere, at every accessory they had just used stuffing glands. They were not happy bunnies when it come to snagging and I made them change all the stuffing glands for XT/CXT glands with banjos and fly leads where necessary:hurray:

 

[ruston]

On a job recently the aircon guys used SY everywhere, at every accessory they had just used stuffing glands. They were not happy bunnies when it come to snagging and I made them change all the stuffing glands for XT/CXT glands with banjos and fly leads where necessary:hurray:

All the small installations in shops and the like are done like that up here.

 

[Leesparkykent]

All the small installations in shops and the like are done like that up here.

I don't know why aircon guys are so adamant on using the stuff tbh and then glanding it wrongly lol

 

[ruston]

And using it outside. I know some manufacturers say theirs can be , but I would not do it.

 

[ipf]

On a job recently the aircon guys used SY everywhere, at every accessory they had just used stuffing glands. They were not happy bunnies when it come to snagging and I made them change all the stuffing glands for XT/CXT glands with banjos and fly leads where necessary:hurray:

.....and I'll bet they were cursing you. I had exactly the same at a restaurant, last year, with loads of it outside. They use it all over the country and couldn't understand the problem.
Did some at a school and used swa, SY didn't enter my thoughts.
Finding quite a bit of the stuff on present EICR too, used as 400v supplies to industrial car lifts, among other things.

 

[davesparks]

On a job recently the aircon guys used SY everywhere, at every accessory they had just used stuffing glands. They were not happy bunnies when it come to snagging and I made them change all the stuffing glands for XT/CXT glands with banjos and fly leads where necessary:hurray:

It could be worse, they could have had someone nasty like me snagging them!


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[edexlab]

Make of this what you will!

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Only states it "discourages" us from using it. And as Andy has said above, move manufacturers state that their cab;le confirms to SOME parts but not all!

Jay

It does say to refer to other IEC or countries standards,

So if it is constructed to VDE and this conforms to IEC standards doesn't this mean it can be used?

I remember reading in the regs book a while ago, ( don't have it with me, )

At the beginning somewhere it says reference should be made to standards from other countries or IEC standards where there is no British standard for a product

I thought this implied
that as long as the cable / item has been tested / constructed to a standard recognisable as being equivalent or higher to BS it can be used ,

This would allow newly developed products not tested to BS to be used

Having regs stating non BS tested products can't be used would be very limiting for Industry

Can someone look it up and post it please, or if someone has a better understanding can they explain

We use a lot of SY for all motors, heaters power to solenoids etc and CY for controls along with Tronic cat 5, belden and network cabling, customer sorts out power supplies to all panels and machines

Generally the SY is glanded via stuffing glands but we always screen via a flying lead to terminals



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