what documents should be completed after initial veritication?

[Ian Smith]

of the electrical installation. trying to find the answer on the internet but no luck so far. Thanks in advance.

 

[stuartcourt]

what kind of installation mate

 

[MDJ]

of the electrical installation. trying to find the answer on the internet but no luck so far. Thanks in advance.

2 bananas' an apple and a bike

 

[Ian Smith]

what kind of installation mate

Domestic Installation.

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2 bananas' an apple and a bike

Lol sounds legit.

 

[stuartcourt]

have you replaced board or added a light etc

 

[Ian Smith]

have you replaced board or added a light etc

Yeah I have added one ring final, and thats it.

 

[stuartcourt]

domestic electrical installation certificate

 

[Kate]

Minor works

 

[Kate]

Minor works is one sheet to fill...elec install is 3 pages...you pick one.

 

[Deleted member 72666]

domestic electrical installation certificate

Plus Schedule of inspections and schedule of test results!

 

[Ian Smith]

domestic electrical installation certificate

OK thanks mate, and would I complete any documents if I have not added or changed anything?

 

[Brightspark2]

Minor works is one sheet to fill...elec install is 3 pages...you pick one.

This isnt minor works as he's installed a new circuit...

An electrical installation certificate is whats needed

 

[Guest55]

Minor works

and yet completely the wrong one.
EIC.
;-)

 

[Ian Smith]

ok thanks just read the other message. thanks for the help Stan

 

[MDJ]

Amazing that some members don,t know this, gasp

 

[Ian Smith]

Also thanks to everyone else who has answered my question.

 

[stuartcourt]

schedule and circuit all part of it Ian

 

[Deleted member 72666]

ok thanks just read the other message. thanks for the help Stan

No need to post thanks, you could use the 'thanks' button, that's what it's there for!

 

[Octopus]

Also thanks to everyone else who has answered my question.

EIC and its notifiable under part P!

 

[Kate]

Seriously??? Minor works.
"this minor works certificate can be used for the reporting on the condition of an alteration, addition or the INSTALLATION OF A NRW CIRCUIT TO AN EXISTING INSTALLATION and where the work has been carried out by a Competent Person'

taken straight off the notes on back of the form

 

[Kate]

I'm getting fed up of flippant comments on this forum making out I'm a **** electrician. So thank you all for making me feel **** and doubting my ability

 

[MDJ]

Seriously??? Minor works.
"this minor works certificate can be used for the reporting on the condition of an alteration, addition or the INSTALLATION OF A NRW CIRCUIT TO AN EXISTING INSTALLATION and where the work has been carried out by a Competent Person'

taken straight off the notes on back of the form

He added a ring circuit?? Are you sure minor works Kate?

 

[Octopus]

Seriously??? Minor works.
"this minor works certificate can be used for the reporting on the condition of an alteration, addition or the INSTALLATION OF A NRW CIRCUIT TO AN EXISTING INSTALLATION and where the work has been carried out by a Competent Person'

taken straight off the notes on back of the form

Gosh, a new one on me. Is it a NICEIC form, as they think they make the rules!!

 

[Kate]

Yea I'm 100% sure because I rang NAPIT and asked not so long ago. A new circuit is a new circuit whether its a ring or a radial

 

[Deleted member 72666]

Seriously??? Minor works.
"this minor works certificate can be used for the reporting on the condition of an alteration, addition or the INSTALLATION OF A NRW CIRCUIT TO AN EXISTING INSTALLATION and where the work has been carried out by a Competent Person'

taken straight off the notes on back of the form

Have you been drinking tonight by any chance, Kate?

 

[Guest55]

Seriously??? Minor works.
"this minor works certificate can be used for the reporting on the condition of an alteration, addition or the INSTALLATION OF A NRW CIRCUIT TO AN EXISTING INSTALLATION and where the work has been carried out by a Competent Person'

taken straight off the notes on back of the form

dont go there.
just dont.
;-)

 

[Guest55]

I'm getting fed up of flippant comments on this forum making out I'm a **** electrician. So thank you all for making me feel **** and doubting my ability

and spitting your dummy out in public makes you look a pro ?
you were wrong , accept it and move on.
preferably in a mature manner.

 

[ipf]

'The MWIC is intended to be used only for an addition or alteration to an existing circuit that does not extend to the addition of a new circuit'

Stated on the back of NICEIC MWIC.

 

[Sharpend]

Napit MWC do permit a single circuit new install.

 

[MDJ]

Napit MWC do permit a single circuit new install.

Against regs surely, a new circuit isn't, minor works

 

[Guest55]

Napit MWC do permit a single circuit new install.

do you see napit written on the front of bs7671 ?
no , neither do i.
;-)

 

[Kate]

Must be a NAPIT thing then....photo proof

 

[ipf]

Napit MWC do permit a single circuit new install.

I wouldn't fancy living in a 'new installation' with only one circuit available.

Think you mean existing installation, new circuit.

Still wrong though.

 

[Kate]

its not wrong

 

[Brightspark2]

Plus Schedule of inspections and schedule of test results!

The perfect 2391 answer!!...

 

[stuartcourt]

Napit sound like NIC I am with (for all my sins) law to themselves

 

[Sintra]

TBH I have never known a MWC to be used for the addition of a new circuit. NAPIT obviously permit it on their MWC so if they stand by it then I don't have a problem. What does it say in the BGB regarding this (mines in work lol)

 

[markc123]

Without stepping into an argument, and fair play to Kate for showing the photo evidence - i can't understand/believe why Napit would contradict GN3 like that.

I know GN3 is non-stat but still, i use that as my bible when it comes to the in's and out's of testing.

 

[ipf]

It states 'single circuit electrical certificate'

Never seen that before on a MWIC

Check the regs' I think appendix 6 -- 'Minor electrical installation works certificate'

 

[Brightspark2]

Must be a NAPIT thing then....

Definitely, must of just made up there own rules. Its not industry standard.

 

[Guest55]

TBH I have never known a MWC to be used for the addition of a new circuit. NAPIT obviously permit it on their MWC so if they stand by it then I don't have a problem. What does it say in the BGB regarding this (mines in work lol)

i'll tell ya exactly what the fookin regs say .............

"new circuit = EIC"

you can take that to the bank.
napit is going against the IET's requirements for the use of MWC , end of.

 

[Kate]

I fill out test sheets according to NAPIT rules as I pay enough every year to be with them. It wasn't your comments on this thread making me throw my dummy out of the pram, it was abusive PMs. The moderators have now fixed this. Your comments just topped it off.
I came on here to talk about electrics and have a laugh, all I've had over 24 hrs of abuse. Sorry for flipping, just had all I could handle and I knew what my form said

 

[Brightspark2]

What does it say in the BGB regarding this (mines in work lol)

The minor works certificate is intended to be used for additions and alterations to an installation that do not extend to the provision of a new circuit and so on.

 

[hotfingers]

I,m with napit, and yes Kate's right minor works.. Must be a napit thing

 

[Brightspark2]

I fill out test sheets according to NAPIT rules as I pay enough every year to be with them. It wasn't your comments on this thread making me throw my dummy out of the pram, it was abusive PMs. The moderators have now fixed this. Your comments just topped it off.
I came on here to talk about electrics and have a laugh, all I've had over 24 hrs of abuse. Sorry for flipping, just had all I could handle and I knew what my form said

You should be working to BS7671, not NAPITS rules. They are just a competent person scheme.

BS7671 says minor works are NOT for new circuits.

 

[micknew]

I fill out test sheets according to NAPIT rules as I pay enough every year to be with them. It wasn't your comments on this thread making me throw my dummy out of the pram, it was abusive PMs. The moderators have now fixed this. Your comments just topped it off.
I came on here to talk about electrics and have a laugh, all I've had over 24 hrs of abuse. Sorry for flipping, just had all I could handle and I knew what my form said

I bet you'll get flooded with apologies Kate, they should remember that a woman is always right!

 

[Plonker 3]

You should be working to BS7671, not NAPITS rules. They are just a competent person scheme.

BS7671 says minor works are NOT for new circuits.

BS 7671 are also only guidelines.


if as has been said previously competent persons scheme is happy for it too be used in this way then there are no problems.

 

[ipf]

The minor works certificate is intended to be used for additions and alterations to an installation that do not extend to the provision of a new circuit and so on.

Indicated that about 20 and 10 posts back

 

[Guest55]

oh , i am enjoying the banter tonite
wonder if the 24hr garage sells popcorn ?
;-)

 

[ipf]

BS 7671 are also only guidelines.


if as has been said previously competent persons scheme is happy for it too be used in this way then there are no problems.

I can see some coming up though, ha.