What has happened to the trade?

[baldyspark]

It seems that every time I check out the forum, so called qualified sparks are asking the most basic questions such as help my rcd is tripping, how do I test? Etc. So many chancers about nowadays who wouldnt know the first thing about fault finding and think Ra is a school subject. As for these courses that try to make an electrician in five weeks, they should be done for putting peoples lives at risk. Please mods take note, how come so many people disagree with the 5 week wonders yet this forum must agree as one sponsor actually provides this course?
Ill not even get started with all these domestic installers whove never even touched pyro, tray, contactors etc....

 

[jamesBoater]

I think the point is that 5 weeks neither makes you qualified or competent no matter what the money making scammers tell you.

Unfortunately money talks

 

[GMES]

I'm with you on this one mate someone as just started another thread in this section about wiring I'd friends tt house and to be honest he is asking such basic questions that it scares the crap out of me, something as got to be done about these guys and the schemes that are churning them out.

 

[7029 dave]

yeah scary stuff going on, glad im out of domestic!! mugs game.

 

[Captain Custard]

Until the industry grows some balls and insists that government legistrates so that all electricians are licenced with a certified level of competence NOTHING will change!
If you agree +1 this post and when we get to 1,000 I'll forward it to my MP.

 

[Sintra]

In Northern Ireland there is no such thing as a Electrical Trainee wonder. Any person that wishes to become an electrician completes a proper 4 year apprenticeship. There is no easy way in through the door. Why can the same not apply to the rest of the uk? Obviously these short courses are backed by the government by way of this part p nonsense. Surely if an electrician had to be time served then this part p nonsense could be forgotten about.

 

[Des 56]

Sorry to pee on your thread,but you have to blame the death rate caused by faulty electrical installations
It just isn't high enough for a sympathetic hearing

If it ever was to get a lot lot higher, then there would be possibility of action
Possible but not probable

 

[micknew]

It seems that every time I check out the forum, so called qualified sparks are asking the most basic questions such as help my rcd is tripping, how do I test? Etc. So many chancers about nowadays who wouldnt know the first thing about fault finding and think Ra is a school subject. As for these courses that try to make an electrician in five weeks, they should be done for putting peoples lives at risk. Please mods take note, how come so many people disagree with the 5 week wonders yet this forum must agree as one sponsor actually provides this course?
Ill not even get started with all these domestic installers whove never even touched pyro, tray, contactors etc....

Could it be that posters are claiming to be sparks but are in fact DIYers? I think so.
The new DIY section should help.

 

[coldyron]

Get this:

A pal of mine also in the game has made the move to domestic side. He called me yesterday and is enjoying it as it's 100% testing and remedial so easy work.

However - and here is the catch - every other tester in the company (there's 5 in total I believe) doesn't have any kind of electrical qualification yet they are allowed to read Guidance Note 3, buy a Megger and go and test these properties! Apparently, he's spending most of his time going back to these jobs and doing the most basic fault finding as the others don't know how to do it!

How on earth can this even be legal? I've told him to get back into the temps game! It's more fun

 

[Engineer54]

I think post #2 and post 6, answers the OP's question in every respect!!

They together, basically give the long and short of the sorry story, without going into too much detail!!