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DurhamSparky
i came in to he trade via a non electrical apprentice route!!! why should teh old boys be cheesed off!! its part and parcel of changing times!!
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Should have been a joiner!!!!
would you be a domestic joiner or commercial... first fix or second fix.. site or bench ???? imo if you cant do all your not a joiner !!!
Correct ask my 80 yr old dad
Should have been a joiner!!!!
would you be a domestic joiner or commercial... first fix or second fix.. site or bench ???? imo if you cant do all your not a joiner !!!
Correct ask my 80 yr old dad
joking aside... that`s sort of my point... years ago a joiner would be able to turn his hand to all aspects from bench, to site to roofing to shop-fitting etc.. all these are now individualize trades.. it`s just unfortunately a sign of the times, and i can`t ever see it going back to " the good old days".
i do hope that soon the powers that be licensed the electrical trade.. ( and not at the cost of the working spark ) whether apprentice trained or any other route. ( a good spark is a good spark.. fact).
this is a fantastic forum but recently just turning into a --- for tat troll fest.
thats my view... one last beer then bed !!
Have any of you considered becoming an NVQ assessor? good money I think, and the ability to NOT certify the incompetant. What more could you ask for?
I hold NVQ3, 2391, 2382 and 25+years experience. The NVQ can be used as a weapon to defend our trade, please use it as such. I have helped over 20 lads through their NVQ3, the wasters and incompetant have fallen by the wayside, their fault not mine.
As for the experienced sparky, the NVQ will cost you, you will have to put in a few bits of paperwork, you will have to be assessed, shouldn't be a drama. Once the fools are weeded out you may even see more work due to fewer "sparkies" being around.
I know I keep ranting but please be patient with this old boy whilst I rant a little more.
If a young lad decides to come into the trade, and follows a set recognised standard to follow and acheive his goal of becoming a qualified electrician, and thats exactly what I and others did 42 years ago. Then who or what has the right 40 years down the road to say your not qualified any more.
Ok its acceptable to say you might not be up to speed with current regualations, because technology is and will always be changing. The money grabbers have taken care of that with 16th and 17th edition upgrades. I accept that. My point is that there should as many years ago, be a recognised proggression to becoming a qualified electrician once you are, YOU ARE, end off. You have worked and studied hard to pass your exams, you now deserve to be deemed qualified, and now your qualified you can follow a life long path of learning and experiancing the many diverse routes you can and will follow along your life as a qualified electrician. That may well mean you are better at some things than others, depending on what road you take. You might become a first class domestic sparks, you might become a maintenance electrician and be super quick at fault finding and getting gear up and running quickly, you might become an industrial installation sparks and be sh#t hot with your tube and tray work. (Blimey look at Steve's sets there all identical the guys mustard) Does not matter though cus once qualified your qualified and no money grabbing **** should ever be allowed to insult any of us by changing that. End of rant.
I am slightly confused by this topic and the concern it is causing. Is it not a good idea to raise the qualifications required for the domestic installer? Does domestic include flats or mass living areas, swimming pools etc? What you would have is a guy with domestic electrical qualifications that are easily transferrable to other sectors.
I am curious as I have a mate who's lad is completing a similar NVQ relating to the built envoronment and seeing the log book he has demonstrates their are a lot of elements to be completed. Most on here should not be concerned as we have five months to ensure we do not require this qualification to become a QS. Just faxed my application of to NAPIT!!!!!!!!
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