3rd party testing + New scheme registration

[Mark_Burgess]

So, £450 to join a scam, another big hit to be third party inspector and compulsory PI insurance to be an inspector.

I will pass thanks and carry on as I am.
The ESC and local authority can get screwed if they think they can take me hard earned off me.

Who was it that thought of starting up an Elec Forms Comp Persons scheme, how can we get the ball rolling on it?

 

[Octopus]

As a competent sparky the last thing I want to be doing is inspecting the work of bodgers and builders alike - especially then having to tell them that its not good enough and failing the install.

No thanks.

 

[oldtimer]

Common sense would have said lets sort this out but reality is we have hit hard times and the people who run this ie the Schemies will not let go of the power they wield so when the government says things need to change they fudge it only problem is that they end up screwing the very people they are meant to protect ie us the electrician although I think it undermines their own case that they are the guardians of the electrical industry so if they will not respond to people complaining about their members they will not police the system but they will try and sell you courses or take you to court if you use their logo so to sum it up you are paying them to screw you and then add insult to injury giving any Tom Dick or Harry the green light to do electrics because of the ultimate RCD protection. Then they will leave it for 10 years until we get out of this economical hole and the try to start their nonsense all over again

 

[thekingiam]

it looks like they want all domestics done by big national companies who can write off these expenses easily,end of the road for sole traders. with every tom dick and harry doing there own electrics then signed off by a guy that signs off as many as he can a day for just above minimum wage.once again they haven't listened to all the electricians asking for more policing of part p and instead have conspired to try and get more monney from the strugling domestic installer.
as i have just payed elecsa for registration then will continue until next year but if they want more monney they can rewire the house wile they inspect my work.i can see me getting my cowboy boots out of the cupboard.anyone got the address for becoming a part p body, just for a laugh i want to apply and see what they say,if you can't beat them join them.if they let me in who checks my work then?if everyone on this forum applies i wonder what they would think?
if they let me in i will post on ebay certification for all for a tenner no need to look at your work.

 

[oldtimer]

Just to add your right this will wipe out the sole trader because he has to sign it so it will go the same way as PAT testing where a Ltd company will do drive by certificates and when things go wrong they will fold and start up again because the company gets the blame not the individual the funny thing is these companies will cut prices and hire Electrical Trainee on basic wages so the worse thing that could happen is that they go bust and the individual will get his card (if he has one taken off him) and the Schemie who registered them will crawl back into their hole until it all clears up

 

[ipf]

New thread. Who can fail most jobs in a week.

Can see contractors jumping ship, just like the lecturers with the Electrical Trainee's.

 

[oldtimer]

New thread. Who can fail most jobs in a week.

Can see contractors jumping ship, just like the lecturers with the Electrical Trainee's.

Yea but heres the catch the more you fail the more you get a name for it remember Bodget Joe wants it signed off and he dont care then the council does not either so these drive by,s will flourish

 

[amo]

Makes part p even more useless, people with hardly any knowledge can sign off work that they themselves are not 100% and still signing it off. It will just increase the number of unsatisfactory/ poor workmanship jobs that are just signed off and may not be safe. Also the competent schemes will make even more ££££

 

[Octopus]

A reality check here. Those breaking the "rules" are doing so already. I've seen more than my fair share of certificates that are for work that have clearly not been tested.

I reackon I get about 1 call every other month asking me to sign off others work and I always decline it.

 

[oldtimer]

Yes me too and for a time it was our Eastern European cousins who were wanting their worked signed off.

Also had a customer who was going with a letting agent but got me to do some work because I was cheaper so she asked for a EICR but I said forget it get the LAs company who did it before because they will be cheaper she asked how can that be and I said if I did it then they would slag me off on cost . So later she asked how can they do it and I asked were you there when they did it she said no but did not think they stayed long well no I said because they copied and pasted the last one they did