Best type of lighting in stables

[DPG]

Face facts, it needs to comply with the wiring regs.

 

[Percyprod]

Once again, it's not agricultural

 

[DPG]

I give up.

 

[Percyprod]

Face facts, no it doesn't.

 

[telectrix]

stables come under the broader classification of agriculural and horticultural. just because the BS does not specifically mention stables per se.
polo mints are not advertised as containing a nitrogen/oxygen mixture, but we all know there's a hole in the middle, same as with your thinking.

 

[Percyprod]

So far only DPG had spoken any sense. Anyway, this time next week I will have my stables safely wired and connected to the mains. Certainly upset a few folk on here! Anyway, I'll agree to differ on the facts. I know I'm right, even if I'm not (and I am) so what? Life's too short to worry about details.

 

[DPG]

It's a bizarre concept that farms, farm buildings, cow sheds, chicken sheds, outbuildings should all be covered by the wiring regs, but for some reason stables specifically are excluded? Why on earth would you think that would makes sense?

 

[DPG]

It's a bizarre concept that farms, farm buildings, cow sheds, chicken sheds, outbuildings should all be covered by the wiring regs, but for some reason stables specifically are excluded? Why on earth would you think that would makes sense?

 

[DPG]

Enjoyed the argument though - always good to have a good debate.

 

[Andy78]

Still can't see stables mentioned, it's not commercial and it's not agricultural.

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You can quite clearly see from the picture that you have provided that your earlier assertion that BS7671 applies only to dwellings is complete twaddle.

This should be enough evidence to consider that your understanding of the wiring regulations may not be as good as you thought. Certainly enough to consider wiring to the requirements of section 705.

 

[static zap]

If there is a gap in the law it's caused by EU confusion over not considering the horse a food item !
( I suspect it's a GOV perks apply creature - tractor status)

 

[telectrix]

bet with OP's disregard for rules and regulations, he's got Shergar hidden away in them stables.

 

[Percyprod]

You cannot assume that because stables aren't mentioned that they are included under some other heading. I get the point about livestock protection, but we don't have livestock only horses. The planning officer said if the building is not normally occupied, as in a dwelling, office, factory etc then BS7671 doesn't apply. Sorry to keep repeating myself, it is not commercial, not agricultural and we don't keep livestock.

 

[Percyprod]

Actually if the horses were being bred for food then the regs would apply!

 

[static zap]

Static Zap, read my posts, the installation WILL be tested.

So long as you are happy , safe and not documenting every outbuilding,well bore,etc. Win-Win-Win.

 

[Percyprod]

DPG horses aren't livestock. Simple.

 

[DPG]

Crazy argument. Stable next to a house needs to comply with regs, animals on a farm same, but your stable doesn't need to comply with any wiring regs at all. Yep, right.
So by your argument you could wire it all in bell wire and you are not contravening any regulations?

 

[telectrix]

what are they then. deadstock?

 

[Percyprod]

Google 'are horses livestock'. I have just come off the phone to my local planning officer. He has confirmed if the stable is on its own land, on it's own supply, and is not normally occupied then BS7671 does not apply.

 

[telectrix]

and what does a planning officer know about electrical regulations? even most building control officers have only a sketchy knowledge.