Breaking Main Fuse Seal..

[Guest111]

Not every install as a rcd!

And I'm no Electrical Trainee, I did my years at college. And have 10 years on the tools.

30-50 would be a better number, I missed a 0 off. But my point was its not the voltage it's the current. And you shouldn't be any less worried about the supply in a install than the supply at the main fuse.

I'm not pretending I know everything

That's why I joined here. Plenty to learn from u guys.

thats more like it, the thing is there are quite a few of us on here with over 3 times your level of experience,and due to the way things are going with this forum at the minute we are getting tired of the diy brigade coming on here pretending to be sparkies.just think for a minute before you post and it will help you to avoid getting leapt on by a bunch of irate sparkies,the way its going we tend to judge you by your posts not by what you say is your level of experience.

 

[Sparkyphill]

tried to pm you,empty your inbox.

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tried to pm you,empty your inbox.

I've replied Phil have you not received it ?

 

[Knobhead]

Mr. Turnbull, I could recomend Wolfbane's excelent book. "Spoling for bagooners".

(Chelmsford 123)

 

[tidyboiler]

Have you got her telephone number? ........... maybe you can PM it to me????

Watching you.................. don't get blowing a gasket at your tender age dear.......... not before you've waved me off at the airport........:53:............. erm how do you get away with the shower sig then? do you have to go through Morrisons jetwash?

 

[Guest111]

I've replied Phil have you not received it ?

i get a message saying you need to empty your inbox

 

[Sparkyphill]

i get a message saying you need to empty your inbox

sorted

 

[Engineer54]

Well thats me educated then,the only question is if it takes only 3 milliamps to kill then why have 30 milliamp rcd's ?I think you will find it's actually 50 milliamps or above that can kill.I have put the figures up before but this time I cannot be bothered,seems like we have another Electrical Trainee amongst us.

30mA is officially recognised as being the threshold of heart fibrillation.

It depends very much on the actual circumstances a person is in, at the time of receiving a shock, as to what value of current will/can actually kill you. Obviously 10mA offers a better protection than 30mA, but can still have the ability to kill. US GFI breakers and protected outlets are all generally rated at 6mA at 120V/240V but are very prone to nuisance tripping

30mA has been chosen by Europe to all attentive purposes, as a compromise between providing a good degree/level of personal protection from electric shock and the all too familiar occurrence of nuisance tripping.

 

[Guest111]

30mA is officially recognised as being the threshold of heart fibrillation.

It depends very much on the actual circumstances a person is in, at the time of receiving a shock, as to what value of current will/can actually kill you. Obviously 10mA offers a better protection than 30mA, but can still have the ability to kill. US GFI breakers and protected outlets are all generally rated at 6mA at 120V/240V but are very prone to nuisance tripping

30mA has been chosen by Europe to all attentive purposes, as a compromise between providing a good degree/level of personal protection from electric shock and the all too familiar occurrence of nuisance tripping.

Exactly but it still isnt 3milliamps,which is what the op stated. lol

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[Robert Turnbull]

Sorry for the wrong number, I know I have a lot to learn still that's why I'm here.

The point was you can die changing a light just as easily as messing with a main fuse in the wrong circumstances.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

Mr. Turnbull, I could recomend Wolfbane's excelent book. "Spoling for bagooners".

(Chelmsford 123)

Will google this but not following

 

[Guest111]

Will google this but not following

don't bother, you either know it or you dont,lol. trust me you'll never find it on google.

 

[Robert Turnbull]

I can't lol, I'm intrigued now

 

[ipf]

Sorry for the wrong number, I know I have a lot to learn still that's why I'm here.

The point was you can die changing a light just as easily as messing with a main fuse in the wrong circumstances.

You can die falling off a ladder changing the lamp. It's all a matter of priority and using common sense and, of course, a little experience comes into play.

 

[Geordie Spark]

thats more like it, the thing is there are quite a few of us on here with over 3 times your level of experience,and due to the way things are going with this forum at the minute we are getting tired of the diy brigade coming on here pretending to be sparkies.just think for a minute before you post and it will help you to avoid getting leapt on by a bunch of irate sparkies,the way its going we tend to judge you by your posts not by what you say is your level of experience.

I would add that not only should you think for a minute, but maybe you should check what you've typed before you post it - just to make sure you've not missed-out an "0" here & there.

 

[HandySparks]

Mr. Turnbull, I could recomend Wolfbane's excelent book. "Spoling for bagooners".

(Chelmsford 123)

Nice one Tony. This has reminded me about this excellent series. It's now available to watch on 4oD:
Chelmsford 123 - Episode Guide - Channel 4

 

[PaulFarrell1982]

Don't touch it, your not authorised!

 

[telectrix]

i'm approved, or at least my school was.

 

[Jackmurray92]

Don't touch it your not authorised

 

[glasgospark]

there wasnt a seal on it when i seen it

 

[telectrix]

 

[valleybilly]

Is it worth it ? British gas duel fuel £39.99 to fit isolator/upgrade tails , 3 days to 3 weeks fit date thou !

 

[telectrix]

nail hit on head. 3 days to 3 weeks notice to send a man out for less than 1 hour. that might have been acceptable in 1930, but it sure ain't these days. bet if it's a new boiler with £1000 profit, they'd be a bit sharper.

 

[PaulFarrell1982]

If your not wearing insulated gloves and visor, I wouldn't pull it mate

 

[Des 56]

If your not wearing insulated gloves and visor, I wouldn't pull it mate

Why would you not do so

 

[telectrix]

it's a pigging fuse, not a terrorist bomb, FFS.

 

[Des 56]

it's a pigging fuse, not a terrorist bomb, FFS.

Now there speaks a man of experience,he who thinks working with electrics is what we as electricians actually do

 

[Fast&Rough]

pull it naked in the rain

 

[telectrix]

pull it naked in the rain

now we're entering monty python territory.

 

[Edd]

it's a pigging fuse, not a terrorist bomb, FFS.

That really made me chuckle... Some people really do need wrapping up in cotton wool. I blame the HSE its turned all the newby sparks into fairys..

 

[telectrix]

i have to admit to 1 case of personal injury pulling a DNO fuse. the bugger was that tight, i tugged like frick, it came out suddenly and i fell backwards on my arse straight onto a 3036 fuse holder pins. bloody painful.