UK Can't get an electrician to come out for a small job! So help needed!

[David Prosser]

There is the clear sheathing over the insulation giving those conductors the double insulation required. It’s the issue of getting 2 cables into the black boot and maintaining double insulation that’s the issue.

I'm not saying it's a good fitting I'm just checking (my eyes) to see if there is a clear sleeve over the wiring or not.

I assume ????? the design idea behind the black boot is that a homeowner just cuts off the existing bayonet fitting from the pendant strips back the two core flex to a shorter length and somehow fits the whole fitting over the ceiling rose, therefore no need for two cables to enter. Very novel!!

 

[telectrix]

I'm not saying it's a good fitting I'm just checking (my eyes) to see if there is a clear sleeve over the wiring or not.

I assume ????? the design idea behind the black boot is that a homeowner just cuts off the existing bayonet fitting from the pendant strips back the two core flex to a shorter length and somehow fits the whole fitting over the ceiling rose, therefore no need for two cables to enter. Very novel!!

in other words, a light designed by someone who does not know the difference between a screwdriver and his arse.

 

[David Prosser]

in other words, a light designed by someone who does not know the difference between a screwdriver and his arse.

I suspect as much.

 

[Novice]

I very well may be mistaken, but for my eyes it looks like the singles in the light fitting have a clear heat-shrink or sleaving over them. Is this the case ?

Are you in Stratford as your postcode is Solihull ?

In Stratford Upon Avon CV37.

 

[FatAlan]

In Stratford Upon Avon CV37.

Isn't David Savery and his side kick Nigel in that area? Buy him a few beers, take the ---- out of Nigel and he can make a good youtube video slagging off light fittings ?

 

[goasis]

There is the clear sheathing over the insulation giving those conductors the double insulation required. It’s the issue of getting 2 cables into the black boot and maintaining double insulation that’s the issue.

Fair enough, I hadn't spotted that.

 

[Dave OCD]

I totally appreciate all the advice and opinions that people have given - all very valid and it is reassuring to know that there are a lot of electricians out there who are genuinely very safety conscious. However, I was starting to doubt if there was an electrician with a solution to wiring this light in safely - do either you or telectrix live near Stratford Upon Avon ??

I'm sorry mate, I'm in Cornwall and Telectrix is in Scouseland so from either direction it wouldn't be a cheap job. ??

 

[SparkySy]

Only just seen this thread, which side of Stratford upon Avon are you? I do cover Leamington Warwick and the surrounding area but Stratford is a good hour away from me as I am on the border between Northamptonshire Warwickshire and Leicestershire. If you are not in a major rush I have to look at a job out that way in a couple of weeks I could detour past and fit it?!
Sy

 

[Novice]

Only just seen this thread, which side of Stratford upon Avon are you? I do cover Leamington Warwick and the surrounding area but Stratford is a good hour away from me as I am on the border between Northamptonshire Warwickshire and Leicestershire. If you are not in a major rush I have to look at a job out that way in a couple of weeks I could detour past and fit it?!
Sy

That sounds like a plan - happy to wait, as I can't go back to John Lewis yet because of lockdown. Are you happy to quote via here? Or is there an option to private message?

 

[SparkySy]

Sorry for the late reply had a call out! Yes happy to do it if you are happy to wait, you can pm me with your details by clicking on me and starting a conversation.
sy

 

[SparkySy]

So I visited this job today, really nice customer, not long moved there! I can see why it was difficult to install, the light itself was appalling, as usual 3 hands to fit. So I managed to get a wagobox lite in above the fitting with a flex out looking like this!

And about 15mins later ta-da


I also took a look at some downlights in the kitchen whilst there and oh dear. All the earth's were cut off and the original contractor had damaged the cables while installing them, and done nothing to make them safe.
So the one I took down is now safe and awaiting replacement with some new safe ones!

 

[Novice]

So I visited this job today, really nice customer, not long moved there! I can see why it was difficult to install, the light itself was appalling, as usual 3 hands to fit. So I managed to get a wagobox lite in above the fitting with a flex out looking like this!View attachment 64750

And about 15mins later ta-da
View attachment 64751

I also took a look at some downlights in the kitchen whilst there and oh dear. All the earth's were cut off and the original contractor had damaged the cables while installing them, and done nothing to make them safe. View attachment 64752
So the one I took down is now safe and awaiting replacement with some new safe ones!

I am the original poster and must say thanks to everyone on the forum and obviously a BIG THANK YOU to Sparkysy!! No huffing and puffing or complaining about how horrible the fixing was - he calmly assessed the job and just got on with it. Lesson learn from me though - no more buying nice looking lamps without thinking about the fixings!!

I also asked Sparkysy to look at the light in the kitchen and was shocked at what he discovered. He explained that the previous installer had bodged the job and without charging extra he made the fixing safe.

Genuine nice tradesperson, who I will use for any further jobs and will highly recommend to friends and family.

Thanks Sparkysy!!

 

[DPG]

Nice one! A good result

 

[SparkySy]

No problem at all, glad to hear your positive feedback! Many kind thanks and best regards
Sparkysy

 

[HappyHippyDad]

...... and they all lived happily ever after

 

[littlespark]

Would have been a different outcome if he’d trod mud in on his boots, broke your best cup on his tea break and bunged up the toilet. ?

seriously well done @SparkySy

 

[SparkySy]

Thankfully not @littlespark
Although I do spend a lot of my time on farm work so it is possible and may have happened in the past!?