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A periodic inspection before a rewire? What's the point of that?

Good practice before a board change or partial rewire but you don't HAVE to.
 
Why would you want to carry out a PIR on a rewire?

On a partial re-wire or adding an additional circuit then no you have no recourse to carry out a PIR on any part of the existing installation. You just need to ensure that the existing installation comes up to to standards as in regulation 131.8
 
Look mate, sorry to burst your bubble but 99% of DIY sparkies ain't got a scoobie what they're doing. Its as simple as that. Sure they may be able to follow a nice wiring diagram but they won't have a clue when it comes to testing, safe zones for a bathroom, cable calcs etc etc. So whilst you may be able to convince your missus that you are saving a few quid - you are mugging yourself off at the same time. If DIY electrics was such an easy thing then it wouldn't be banned in most countries. However enjoy your DIY electrics whilst you can, because it will be banned here soon as well. Part P - Do you know what this is by the way? Is the first step to stopping Mr DIYer.
Sorry mate, but amateur electrics kill.

Part P does not stop DIY are you sure you know?, it simply ensures it is tested by a competent person.
I am a qualified lift engineer with Level 4 qualifications in electrical engineering and electrical/mechanical testing in the lift industry, I am competent in installing/testing and fault finding on electrical equipment single phase and three phase. However, I am not authorised to test domestic wiring as I have not completed the very narrow criteria to satisfy CPS . I would use these forums to get peoples advice on complying to the regs. I am more than competent to carry out the work in my home, then get a BC to sign it off.
 
Part P does not stop DIY are you sure you know?, it simply ensures it is tested by a competent person.
I am a qualified lift engineer with Level 4 qualifications in electrical engineering and electrical/mechanical testing in the lift industry, I am competent in installing/testing and fault finding on electrical equipment single phase and three phase. However, I am not authorised to test domestic wiring as I have not completed the very narrow criteria to satisfy CPS . I would use these forums to get peoples advice on complying to the regs. I am more than competent to carry out the work in my home, then get a BC to sign it off.

Part-P does anything but ensure it is tested by a competent person actually.

Just a scenario, as i'm interested to hear your opinion....

Mr.Domestic-Electrician lives in rented accommodation in a block of flats, and these flats happen to have a lift in operation.

Now Mr.Landlord realises one of his tenants are an electrician, and asks him to look at the 'faulty' lift. Would you as a 'qualified lift engineer' be happy if Mr.Domestic-Electrician had a go at fixing the lift ?
 
Part-P does anything but ensure it is tested by a competent person actually.

Just a scenario, as i'm interested to hear your opinion....

Mr.Domestic-Electrician lives in rented accommodation in a block of flats, and these flats happen to have a lift in operation.

Now Mr.Landlord realises one of his tenants are an electrician, and asks him to look at the 'faulty' lift. Would you as a 'qualified lift engineer' be happy if Mr.Domestic-Electrician had a go at fixing the lift ?

Thanks for the reply.

Firstly Lifts come under a separate standard. BS7255 Safe working on lifts. This standard explicitly states the qualifications required to work on lifts, which is a minimum of an NVQ3 in lift engineering, obviously due to the nature of the environment (moving parts/crushing) and other specific procedures. so your scenario would be against the standard and would not be permitted. However, for non lift engineers there is a basic qualification EOR202 LEvel 2 Basic lift safety. Which would allow an electrician to work in a lift shaft, but not on the lift equipment. for example he would not be able to work on the lift equipment itself but could work on say a sump pump not associated to the lift but is in the lift pit.
 
just to clarify, what I was referring to in relation to part p was that the requirement was to, obviously install to BS7671 (does not have to be a qualified electrician) and have it tested to confirm (by a qualified electrician registered on an approved contractor scheme).
 

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