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The less said about fire alarm installers, the better.Fire alarm system, thank goodness I didn't have to work on it. only one conduit is bused into the control panel, 3 have female adaptors but no bush, one is just poked in and has a cable tie around it. The less said about the dangling pcbs the better. View attachment 110786
The conduit to the call point has no fixings other than the female adaptor in the top of the box.
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You forgot, hand on chin and slow head shake from side to side, tends to happen with all trades though.The less said about fire alarm installers, the better.
Most turn up on site swaggering like the fourth emergency service, suck air through their teeth and then turn out rougher work than most people would think possible.
Hands on hips for fire alarm installers.You forgot, hand on chin and slow head shake from side to side, tends to happen with all trades though.
I used to be work in this area and I agree! Though I did more fault finding and rectification than installing.The less said about fire alarm installers, the better.
But i was assuming the box was attached to the cpc.
do you think there is a need to bond the pipe, assuming the cable comes into the box double insulated?
Personally i was thinking if the flex was secured inside the back box with a cable clamp then the tube need not be bonded, if it is free to move then i think the tube should be bonded.
but I am open to peoples suggestions.
I just had experience of this yesterday.
Was on my ongoing job at a funeral directors where they’ve built a second mortuary inside the garbage they keep the cars in.
There was a smaller room there before, used for coffin storage, and had a smoke detector in it.
Alarm engineer came, disconnected the detector base, pulled out the cable back to the call point and put the EOL in the call point.
Now the new room has been built, although a little bigger floor area and height, the same engineer turns up to “put the detector back on”
He spent over an hour on the phone to his boss asking if this room actually needed a detector or not…. admitted to me that he didn’t really know the regulations…. And seemed to me like he was swerving the job.
10 to 12m of FP200, a handful of P clips and the old base and detector…
To my mind it’s just as much risk as a storage room. More electrical devices, chemicals… staff will be working in there for some time, not just in and out.
“Oh, it’s an install job now.” teeth sucking noises
You could have had it done the time you’ve been on that bloody phone.
Yes… garage, not garbage.@littlespark Thought you were being a little disrespectful to the dead there, then realised you probably meant "garage".
It is when the do the pelvic thrust, well that drives me insane.Hands on hips for fire alarm installers.
I used to be work in this area and I agree! Though I did more fault finding and rectification than installing.
Several large firms used to sub out installations and getting a good job entirely depended on whether the subbies had high personal standards and were willing to go the extra mile while getting paid a sub-optimal rate for it. A rare few did this regardless, but needless to say this was the exception not the rule. The install usually stayed appalling for the first year until the service team went out for first annual inspection and testing, had a hissy fit, and then one of us would get the call to go and "tidy it up a bit" which often meant doing most of it again much to the irritation of the boss of the service side.
My suggestions that it would be better to keep an eye on the original install fell of deaf ears, and I eventually moved to a much smaller firm, a period I look back on with fondness as the guys were brilliant, teamwork at its best, and high standards.
And that sheathed cable is connected to a metal clad FCU which is connected to the copper pipe so makes it an accessory point. 411.3.1.1 states this very clearly
The few I have seen didn’t have any teethThe less said about fire alarm installers, the better.
Shortest route from A to B. Swing out under trunking lid. Notch conduit boxes. Just whatever gets the job done, tools packed up and on the road home at the earliest possible time.
Don't get me wrong; there are some good guys out there, but the good guys are few and far between. Most turn up on site swaggering like the fourth emergency service, suck air through their teeth and then turn out rougher work than most people would think possible.
I get the same thought but mine involved kylie minogue.It is when the do the pelvic thrust, well that drives me insane.
On the positive side, think of how low her gas bill will be this winter!Friend of mine said her new Hive thermostat wasn't working properly
Looks fine to me.!!!! But REALLY don’t like the Brown/Cream coloured role of Lino, to the left of photo.!Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..
Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.
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I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:
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Turn that rad OFF…!!Friend of mine said her new Hive thermostat wasn't working properly
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Can anyone see why...
Plumber did the install apparently
New way to connect a FCU. Done by - or at least under "supervision" of - a spark who was using NIC branded forms. Supplies this hand dryer.
I've seen worse, much much worse !Newly added data points.
One worked to the A standard and the other the B standard.I've seen worse, much much worse !
Went to test the cabling left behind by one tenant when they vacated an office, only found 2 pairs connected but on some it was 12&45, others it was 36&78 (or something like that), but also with pairs swapped so 36&78 might appear on 12&45 on the other end. Plus a few where there was nothing connected according to the tester.
Story was that the previous tenant (also a client of ours) had several offices, when they left, they had their electrician separate the networks so each was separate. No offence intended, but like previous criticism of plumbers and alarm installers, "a few" electricians really shouldn't be let loose with network cabling - especially if they aren't prepared to invest in at least the most basic of test equipment.
So, anyone like to guess what was wrong ?
Where's the output from the spur, or is it bunched in with the T&E'sNew way to connect a FCU. Done by - or at least under "supervision" of - a spark who was using NIC branded forms. Supplies this hand dryer.
Indeed, it's in with the T&Es. As suggested above, "fancy junction box". Cautionary tale: always do the safe isolation thing and test everything.Where's the output from the spur, or is it bunched in with the T&E's
Where's the output from the spur, or is it bunched in with the T&E's
More fun than that - mixing A and B would swap pairs butvstill leave 4 pairs connected. In this case, only 2 pairs were connected between any patch panel socket and wall socket.One worked to the A standard and the other the B standard.
American and British, it doesn't stand for those specifically but it's a good rule of thumb. Everyone use B for British across the board in the UK so there's never any major ---- ups.One worked to the A standard and the other the B standard.
I'll remember that - didn't realise it was that simple.American and British, it doesn't stand for those specifically but it's a good rule of thumb. Everyone use B for British across the board.
I'll remember that - didn't realise it was that simple.
Bought my first RJ45 crimper back in the summer to make up half a dozen cables. All worked first time, except one 40m cable, so I invested in a cheap cable tester recommended in a thread on here. Soon found the problem using that. Master was sequencing 1,2,3...8, while the slave was sequencing 8,7,6...1 - I'd crimped one of the plugs on upside down. Could make out which is was through the translucent plastic of the plug, so five minutes later and one scrap plug, all was good.
Is that where you trim the cores to length after the plug is fitted?Also using through hole wiring plugs makes life easier
Is that where you trim the cores to length after the plug is fitted?
You've reminded me of an "incident" from a good few years ago. My employer at the time managed a campus WAN for a science park - each office/unit was pre-wired with a couple of network points, and one was cabled back to a switch port. We could remotely provision internet access just by configuring the port and allocating them an IP address or range.... I'd crimped one of the plugs on upside down. Could make out which is was through the translucent plastic of the plug, so five minutes later and one scrap plug, all was good.
Strange that it didn't seem to trip either.
Was reading a thread about repairing imperial MICC and remembered this abomination near me where someone has replaced a Coughtrie light with something of a different size:
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Yes. Much easier.
Indeed. By the time you've done a few hundred, or thousand, it gets easy. At a previous job, we used to get work experience kids from school - I'd show them how it's done, let them do their own (with assistance), and then they could take home their very own patch cable that they'd made. It went down well.... there is an art to it - just like with mains. A caring LV installer will confirm that with enough practice and the right technique its possible to make a sound and easy crimp, first time with traditional RJ45s.
Really?Was reading a thread about repairing imperial MICC and remembered this abomination near me where someone has replaced a Coughtrie light with something of a different size:
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