Domestic Condition report

[EddieB]

Guys advice please on a report that has come my way to undertake remedial action, there is one item I'm not sure on how to approach it states
" No RCD protection on cables buried less than 50mm from surface of wall" The ring circuits have RCD coverage, so it's the Lighting that this statement concerns. This is a let property with shared occupancy. It's been given a C3 classification.

 

[Guest77]

How old is the install? if a 16th install then no code as it complied at the time it was installed.

 

[Octopus]

Was the report "unsatisfactory" with a C3?

 

[EddieB]

How old is the install? if a 16th install then no code as it complied at the time it was installed.

Approx 20 yrs rewired sometime in the late 1990's

 

[Guest77]

Approx 20 yrs rewired sometime in the late 1990's

Well it is a no code then, unless you find a problem whilst inspecting the premises

 

[EddieB]

No, improvement recommended

 

[Octopus]

No, improvement recommended

Says who? I disagree!

 

[EddieB]

Disagree with what?

 

[Octopus]

Disagree with what?

C3 is OK - "improvement required" is contencious!

 

[EddieB]

I have a inspection report that states what I've described, all I want to know is what to do about it.

 

[EddieB]

Thanks Murdoch

 

[Octopus]

IMHO stating "requires improvement" means that the only logical thing to do is update the CU which isn't fair on the millions of homeowners with 16th ed or earlier homes!

 

[ipf]

Seems more like 'improvement recommended' to me

 

[gutterball]

tell them a new cu would improve the situation and the price of doing the work. explain it's to an earlier version of the regs and still reasonably safe. then see if they want the work done. i find about 60% agree to a new cu if you explain the benefits well enough.

 

[Guest77]

There is nothing Wrong and no need for any remedial works at all, the guy who did the initial report was a numptey.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I had a nights work, working on an installation which was being installed to the 16th edition on the 27th of March this year.
Not 100% sure when it would have been signed off! I should imagine that it would not have been more than a week or two after I worked there.
Seems a bit odd that that it is acceptable for installations to be constructed to the 16th edition, yet there are people stating such installations require updating?

 

[D Skelton]

It's a C3, lack of additional protection via 30mA RCD for the aforementioned cables in walls buried less than 50mm. This doesn't comply with current regs.

Improvement recommended is all. No improvement is required.

 

[telectrix]

It's a C3, lack of additional protection via 30mA RCD for the aforementioned cables in walls buried less than 50mm. This doesn't comply with current regs.

Improvement recommended is all. No improvement is required.

eggsackly

 

[ses]

Concur

 

[davesparks]

In theory a let property is under supervision by a letting agent with tenants not allowed to go drilling or hammering things into the wall.
The only people allowed to be doing such things should be tradesmen and so should be skilled.
So as it stands I'd say its a no code situation.