Eicr

[Davem]

Right guys first EICR found some C1&C2 codes obviously once thee have been rectified what certification do you give the client once a satisfactory ??

 

[trev]

An installation cert/minor works referenced to the EICR

 

[GMES]

An installation cert/minor works referenced to the EICR

Don't give all our secret's away Trev

 

[Davem]

Thanks Trev with regards t that, I have a hob plug in a socket, shower on a to small of a breaker, no blanks in consumer unit etc. how would I go about filling the minor works cert in. I ask because I'm not really changing the wiring I'm just rectifying the problems, would there be a need a test again if I'm simply changing a breaker ?? Thanks again Trev

 

[GMES]

Davem why are you asking about Eicr's when it say's on your profile that you are a factory worker, am I missing something ??

 

[trev]

I'm hoping he's "one of us" and just having a brain fart mate.
If he's "one of them" we'll have to deal with him

 

[Davem]

Yeah sorry lads need to update profile was a factory worker put myself through college, and passed elecsa part p in March

 

[trev]

Thanks Trev with regards t that, I have a hob plug in a socket, shower on a to small of a breaker, no blanks in consumer unit etc. how would I go about filling the minor works cert in. I ask because I'm not really changing the wiring I'm just rectifying the problems, would there be a need a test again if I'm simply changing a breaker ?? Thanks again Trev

A hob on a 13 amp supply is unlikely to work, what is the wattage of this hob? If it's low enough to be on a plug top why are you pulling it?

Shower on wrongly rated MCB, what is the wattage of the shower and MCB?

No blanks in a CU, send the customer an invoice detailing the blanks supplied and fitted.

If you're changing an MCB you are potentially changing the circuit characteristics and this would require a installation cert (imho) and yes, for that reason you would fully test the circuit to ensure it still complies. However, if it is a like for like replacement there is an argument for no cert required but I'd do one just to cover my backside if nothing else.

 

[Benjamiin]

A covering letter always gets sent with any remedial works I carry out mate. As you can't exactly write a test form for fitting blanks into a db! Hope this helps

 

[Davem]

Shower is 10.5kw fitted with 10mm cable on 40amp mcb, for the hob it's supplied from a 32amp breaker in 6mm junction box to a double socket hob and oven plug in.

 

[trev]

Shower is 10.5kw fitted with 10mm cable on 40amp mcb, for the hob it's supplied from a 32amp breaker in 6mm junction box to a double socket hob and oven plug in.

I don't like the sound of the junction box, should be on an outlet. Assuming the wattage is ok for a 32 amp supply then there's nothing wrong there and if the oven is less than 2KW then the recommendation for a dedicated supply doesn't apply.
Don't think either of those things warrant a C1 or 2 though mate

 

[Davem]

Oven is fine on a plug it's just the hob I'm a bit worried about, completing tomorrow so will doubly check this. What's your thoughts regarding the shower Trev ?

 

[trev]

Should be on a 45.

 

[davesparks]

What sort of hob?
Is it an electric job or gas with electric ignition?

 

[Davem]

Electric mate n that's what I thought Trev cheers mate

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Thanks Trev with regards t that, I have a hob plug in a socket, shower on a to small of a breaker, no blanks in consumer unit etc. how would I go about filling the minor works cert in. I ask because I'm not really changing the wiring I'm just rectifying the problems, would there be a need a test again if I'm simply changing a breaker ?? Thanks again Trev

so..

how many KW is the shower?

and why do you think the MCB`s I N is too low?

what is the CSA of the shower cable?

edit: sorry about that...just seen a post with the info on it..

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Shower is 10.5kw fitted with 10mm cable on 40amp mcb, for the hob it's supplied from a 32amp breaker in 6mm junction box to a double socket hob and oven plug in.

so...

you know that MCB will hold for upto 1.45 X its I N for upto an hour before it lets go dont you...

whats the installation method of the shower cable?

 

[DPG]

so...

you know that MCB will hold for upto 1.45 X its I N for upto an hour before it lets go dont you...

whats the installation method of the shower cable?

Still should be on a 45 anyway. Not good practice to leave it running over its rating. Daz

 

[trev]

You beat me to it Daz

 

[telectrix]

i'd be getting a clamp meter on that shower before condemning the 40A MCB. be very surprised to get >40A even on a good day.