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We are both billing directly, both of us have done work for him before. But this time the plumber gave me the nod about the job - then I went in and said he needed a new CU before I would touch the bathroom - which was all done and dusted about 10 days ago!

Then the way that I see it is that you work for and have a duty of care to the home owner & the plumber has no say in it.
This is only my opinion but I would email the customer explaining that all is going well but it is not possible to locate the down lights in his preferred position due to the layout of joists. I'd make no reference at this stage of walking away from the job, suggest alternative positions and ask for the go ahead.
If the client insists (and I'm sure he wont) that you locate them where you are not happy then refuse, invoice for work completed and wish him luck.

Then knee the plumber in the balls on the way out.
 
Buy him a pint.
plumbers round my way just want to turn nuts and nothing else
never mind cutting out downlights holes for me(all be it in the wrong position in this case)
 
Well I wouldn't keep on questioning Clive myself, one of the best Sparks on the forum, I would answer his OP Question, my answer is C, that said B would also work.
 
Well I wouldn't keep on questioning Clive myself, one of the best Sparks on the forum, I would answer his OP Question, my answer is C, that said B would also work.

Thing is, when you work for yourself, often on your owm, sometimes you need to run things past others to get a check on what is best.

TBH if I don't work with this muppet again it won't be a problem!

Thanks guys
 
C with a covering e-mail . ( you can put all your concerns in e-mail and att a copy of mail with invoice) and let the plumber issue a cert. It's your rep on the line, not the plumbers, if it all goes t-ts up you are covered. you have stated on invoice + you have stated on e-mail. that's 2 warnings about going against manufacturers instructions (3 including the verbal ) get paid, put everything in a file and move on
. I am fortunate I work full time for a company, if I say it cannot be done the way they or the architects say they want it I always win and they have to have a rethink . If it goes against what you know is right, cover yourself at all costs. wish I could be of more help.
 

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