Fitting electric heater NOT storage.

[SPARTYKUS]

Pretty much all electric heaters will be 100% efficient; there's nowhere else for the energy used to go. In fact a light bulb (lamp) or any other appliance will be a 100% efficient heater (neglecting any light energy that escapes through the window glass).

I know.... sorry wasn't trying to show off but was responding to the "its too good to be true" point. As in 1 kWatt in, nevr more than 1kWatt out!

Thats all.

 

[chris murphy]

Yes agree, there are some superb technologies offering lower wattage yet giving great results. I heat my home office 8 x 3.5m with a 550w Cosystone heater. I have also just installed same product into a 3 bedroom flat client is really happy. Effective Construction Elements Ltd, Buxton Road, Norwich, NR11. Electrical Contractors and Electricians Ask them about Trade Pricing they can do some good deals.

"Hello mydigitalhome",


I do not want to offend You but I have to comment upon what You stated here:

You are `Heating` a 8 Metre X 3.5 Metre Room with a 550 Watt Electric Heater - and this statement is also applicable to when the temperature is at perhaps Zero degrees Centigrade or below [E.G. minus 2 Centigrade for system design parameter] - ?

I am assuming that You mean that the 550 Watt Heater will `Heat` the Room in Winter Temperatures because it would not be useful to have meant that it is `sufficient` at recent temperatures - ?

Depending upon the amount of outside walls and the ceiling height this is approximately only between 10 and 15 % of the actual Heat Requirement for a room of that size.

Unless You have the most highly insulated room that I have ever heard of this is Impossible !

And IF You have got the most highly insulated room that I have ever heard of it would still not be correct to be stating that people can `Heat` Rooms of anything like the size that you quoted in circumstances where those rooms are NOT `Highly Insulated`.

I am a Heating Engineer - there is NO `Heating Technology` OR Insulation process that can achieve what You have stated - apart from perhaps the `Laboratory Conditions` that MIGHT be possible to create using the Best Insulation that has ever been manufactured [?].

Heat Losses and the Heat required in order to overcome the losses and Heat the room are calculated to suit particular Rooms and their construction / location - there is NO `normal` room of the size 8 Metres X 3.5 Metres that can be correctly Heated by 550 WATTS - even without knowing the amount of outside walls or ceiling height.

I have looked at the `Cosystone` Infra red Heaters - it may be the case that the Infra red heat waves could keep a person Warm when the rays are directed at where they are in the Room but this is NOT `Heating the Room`.

Although I did read the statement about the `People and Objects Heating the Room` [?].


With regard to having these in every room of a Home - as it is stated that the Heaters do `NOT Heat the Air` - this must mean that unoccupied rooms are Cold / not very warm in Winter.


I am making the distinction about `Heating the Room` - as opposed to having a Room where you can be warmed by the Infra red rays - but that could act as a `Heat Sink` for Heat from other Rooms / sources within the Home / Building.


You will no doubt be disagreeing with these statements - as You are a User and Installer of this product.


I don`t want to get into any `arguments` about Heating on the Forum - where Members have been VERY Helpful to Me with My previous questions.

Regards,

Chris - Heating Engineer

 

[UNG]

I have to agree with Chris's observations regarding the Cosystone heaters. The website is very confused with contradicting statements regarding how they work

Heating people by infra red heat has it's uses and applications but in a domestic situation there are other factors that need to be considered not least is damp and mould that can occur in un or underheated buildings and the risk to plumbing freezing causing burst pipework. In the quest for efficient heating is there a potential of putting customers health at risk leaving them with a damp musty home by using these products.

I find it interesting that most of these innovative heaters are designed / manufactured in hotter foreign climates or am I being too suspicious of the technology and the promises the manufacturers make for these products

 

[Guitarist]

Infra red heaters are awful and have limited uses. Agree with all UNG's points.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

One day every home will have a woodburner!

 

[Guitarist]

One day every home will have a woodburner!

If only everyone had your vision, the world would be a cleaner, happier place.