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Chris, who made this check list gas safe or which?
forget that found it, so the customer is supposed to stand there behind the qualified person servicing the boiler with a tick sheet, without actually knowing what they are looking for.
"Hello Dillb",
As far as I remember Which compiled the Checklist in conjunction with the Gas Engineer who they engaged to observe the Service Engineers [I gave a link to His article in my previous message] - but I would be almost certain that Which would also liaise with Gas Safe on something like this - they stated that they `Reported the results of their investigation to Gas Safe` so I think that it would be a fair assumption that they would have submitted a copy of the Checklist to them for advice.
As You will have read in my previous message I realise that it is NOT practical to expect a Householder or Tenant to actually watch the Boiler Engineer servicing their Boiler - my advice for Members would be to produce the Checklist to the Boiler Engineer and politely ask Him [or Her] to tick off the items and Sign under the Checked items.
Doing that MIGHT cause a less than scrupulous Boiler Engineer to realise that the Householder is knowledgeable about what `Checks` should be carried out and perhaps that would motivate the Engineer to do the Boiler service correctly - ?
Other Members have mentioned Combustion Analysis being `Mandatory` - this is NOT the case for ALL Gas Appliances - although I feel that it SHOULD BE !
The use of a Flue Gas Analyser was brought in so that the products of combustion from Condensing Boilers - Flueless Heaters etc. could be checked to see if the appliance is burning correctly and is not producing Carbon Monoxide.
Condensing Boilers and Flueless Fires / Heaters have Gas Control valves that are set up by the Manufacturer and the Gas rate cannot / SHOULD NOT be adjusted so it is important that the Products of Combustion / `Flue Gases` are analysed to check that the products of combustion are within the correct parameters and that the Appliance is `Burning Correctly`.
I did notice that Combustion Analysis was not mentioned on the Which Checklist - I don`t know why ?
It is NOT `Mandatory` to carry out a Flue Gas Analysis on Non Condensing Boilers - although as the `newest` of these Appliances would now be over 10 Years old and some will be 20 - 25 or even 30 Years old -it SHOULD be done by any `Professional` Boiler Engineer / Gas Engineer who HAS TO be carrying / have access to a Combustion Analyser when working on Condensing Boilers and Flueless Heating Appliances.
Open Flue Boilers / Gas Water Heaters etc. [a Gas Appliance connected to a vertical Flue `Pipe` via a Draught Diverter] are another `Must Do` - IN MY OPINION regarding Analysing the Products of Combustion.
BUT this is NOT MANDATORY - if the Spillage Test [Smoke Match or Taper] passes - a Test to ensure that ALL of the products of combustion are entering the Open Flue - there is NO requirement for the Flue Gases to be Analysed - which in my opinion is a dangerous error as Open Flued Gas Boilers / Water Heaters are the MOST DANGEROUS types ofGas Appliances there are - apart from Flueless Gas Fires / Heaters.
When carrying out a Landlords Inspection or a Gas Safety Inspection for a Homeowner it is obviously prudent to carry out an analysis on the Products of Combustion from EVERY Gas Appliance [where possible] including a Cooker / Oven as they are a `Flueless Appliance` and discharge products of combustion into the atmosphere within the Kitchen / Home.
As it IS Mandatory for ALL Heating Engineers / Boiler Engineers and Gas Engineers who work on HEATING Appliances to USE / own / have access to a Combustion Analyser for use on Condensing Boilers and Flueless HEATING Appliances - Engineers who are carrying out Landlords Gas Safety Inspections or Gas Safety Inspections for Homeowners SHOULD include Older / Non Condensing Boilers / Open Flued Gas Appliances and Gas Cookers in their Combustion Analysis.
BUT - Combustion Analysis of those categories of Gas Appliances is NOT `Mandatory` when carrying out Servicing / Repairs or Gas Safety Inspections.
Please excuse Me Dillb for using my reply to You to include briefly describing the situation regarding the supposed `Mandatory Combustion Analysis of Gas Appliances` - this will no doubt provoke arguments from Members who think differently about these points- ?
Regards,
Chris
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