LED ceiling lights in bathrooms

[driverman]

Hi guys, I'm getting to the 2nd fix stage at long last. I've taken advice from this forum and decided to fit fire rated LED's throughout the house. I've never installed LED's before and usually in the bathroom I would fit a batten holder or a ceiling rose with a HO skirt on! Going back a bit! Question is, are there any restrictions fitting LED's in bathrooms? They are all outside any zone areas. However my concern is the one above the actual shower area. I'm thinking about the environment to which it and possibly others are being subjected to. Any thoughts Gents? Thanks

 

[telectrix]

above shower i'f fit an IPX4 or better, no matter whether it's in a zone or not.

 

[Jay Sparks]

I agree with tel. And I would also fit the rest in the bathroom, the same as the one above the shower, just so they all look the same.

 

[driverman]

above shower i'f fit an IPX4 or better, no matter whether it's in a zone or not.

Thanks...I'll see if the company (Silvano Click?) has IPX4 in their range

 

[driverman]

above shower i'f fit an IPX4 or better, no matter whether it's in a zone or not.

Could I tell the customer that the fittings he supplied are not suitable for purpose and do not comply with BS7671? As opposed to it would be better to go for a IPX4? Don't get me wrong, I agree with both of your recommendations. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Belts n braces with safety pin.

 

[driverman]

Any one know the make of LED light fittings that use the green click male / female type connections? I've only seen them once and all info at home. The ones that i have to install require a 65mm hole.

 

[Jay Sparks]

Could I tell the customer that the fittings he supplied are not suitable for purpose and do not comply with BS7671? As opposed to it would be better to go for a IPX4? Don't get me wrong, I agree with both of your recommendations. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Belts n braces with safety pin.

If the fittings are not fit for the environment they will be used in, then they will not meet the requirements of BS7671. It is your professional judgement that will decide whether they are fit or not.

 

[Andy78]

I fit IPX4 light fittings as standard in any area in a bathroom.

Obviously the regs call for certain IP ratings within certain zones of the special location. If the lights are outside the zones then they do not have to have any specific IP rating as far as section 701 is concerned.

However the regs also call for equipment to be appropriate for the external influences likely to be encountered in the installed situation. (132.5, 133.3, 512.2).

In a bathroom situation, all equipment will be subject to moisture from water vapour, especially the lighting. You could use the above regs to argue your case of the provided lights not being suitable. In my opinion the same argument could also be applied to the battens and pendants you usually fit too.

 

[driverman]

Any one know the make of LED light fittings that use the green click male / female type connections? I've only seen them once and all info at home. The ones that i have to install require a 65mm hole.

Found out guys. Ovia inceptor led 4300sc7c (hopefully) Any one used these? good, bad ?

 

[driverman]

I fit IPX4 light fittings as standard in any area in a bathroom.

Obviously the regs call for certain IP ratings within certain zones of the special location. If the lights are outside the zones then they do not have to have any specific IP rating as far as section 701 is concerned.

However the regs also call for equipment to be appropriate for the external influences likely to be encountered in the installed situation. (132.5, 133.3, 512.2).

In a bathroom situation, all equipment will be subject to moisture from water vapour, especially the lighting. You could use the above regs to argue your case of the provided lights not being suitable. In my opinion the same argument could also be applied to the battens and pendants you usually fit too.

Thanks...is IPX4 the same as or better than IP65?