Rat proof wiring

[sajeel]

Hi people,

Recently I am doing rewires using conduit however this is a pain and slow, also it is impossible to cover all areas what are your experiences and any tips ?

As I had a few properties where rats have bitten wire including twin and earth, rj45 and coax.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Hi people,

Recently I am doing rewires using conduit however this is a pain and slow, also it is impossible to cover all areas what are your experiences and any tips ?

As I had a few properties where rats have bitten wire including twin and earth, rj45 and coax.

Adaptaflex - Flexible Conduit Systems

Don't know if this is bull dung or not.

 

[sajeel]

Looks good thanks for that wasn't aware of that company

 

[Spoon]

We have used Adaptaflex, they are good. We use Flexicon now.

 

[shanky887614]

you could always use metal copex and that should work

dont get the plastic stuff some of it doesnt offer 360 protection under the plastic

 

[Risteard]

you could always use metal copex and that should work

dont get the plastic stuff some of it doesnt offer 360 protection under the plastic

Steel kopex isn't exactly cheap though!

 

[7029 dave]

Micc, yes no.?

 

[Risteard]

Micc, yes no.?

Ideal, but definitely definitely definitely not cheap!

 

[shanky887614]

why does it matter what it costs you charge them for materials

 

[davesparks]

why does it matter what it costs you charge them for materials

Because you won't get the job if you are too expensive

 

[Leesparkykent]

why does it matter what it costs you charge them for materials

Because you want to be competitive.

 

[Dave OCD]

Because if the cost is higher than they're willing to pay/can afford you'll probably lose the job to a cowboy.

 

[Dave OCD]

3 replies in the same minute.:laugh3:

 

[shanky887614]

Because if the cost is higher than they're willing to pay/can afford you'll probably lose the job to a cowboy.

but then you will get the job to correct the cowboy

 

[Leesparkykent]

but then you will get the job to correct the cowboy

Or maybe not as the customer is non the wiser.

 

[davesparks]

but then you will get the job to correct the cowboy

There's no guarantee to that

 

[R G]

I have used SY in the past in place of flexible cables , because dogs kept chewing flexes ...

Also have used high impact pvc tube in loft due to squirrels also

 

[davesparks]

I have used SY in the past in place of flexible cables , because dogs kept chewing flexes ...

Seriously? SY offers virtually no mechanical protection, it's certainly not animal proof!

 

[tazz]

Have used steel security tubing on squirrel infested nursing homes, it thinner than gav conduit. Couplers, bends etc, are clamped on using tension screws. Quick & easy fitting available 8mm, 10mm, 12mm....... to 25mm

 

[davesparks]

Have used steel security tubing on squirrel infested nursing homes, it thinner than gav conduit. Couplers, bends etc, are clamped on using tension screws. Quick & easy fitting available 8mm, 10mm, 12mm....... to 25mm

Where do you get it from? I've tried to get hold of it before for running cat5 in but had no luck

 

[shanky887614]

Where do you get it from? I've tried to get hold of it before for running cat5 in but had no luck

slip tube might work well as well if you cant get the security tube.

 

[tazz]

small tube we get from Enterprise Security, lager tube, Wilson electrical up you way ordered it for us

http://www.enterprisesecuritydistribution.com/intruder/tube-and-trunking

 

[davesparks]

small tube we get from Enterprise Security, lager tube, Wilson electrical up you way ordered it for us

http://www.enterprisesecuritydistribution.com/intruder/tube-and-trunking

The cheeky buggers, I use Wilson's as my main wholesaler and they've played dumb on the subject before now. I'll stamp my feet a bit next time I want some

 

[davesparks]

slip tube might work well as well if you cant get the security tube.

I thought that stuff disappeared years ago?

 

[shanky887614]

I thought that stuff disappeared years ago?

no a new A+E in wolverhampton is being done in it

its made a cumback like screwits

 

[Darkwood]

They still use it in Industrial alarms for heavy duty door contacts like roller shutters, see it all the time in factories at low level.

 

[sajeel]

Because if the cost is higher than they're willing to pay/can afford you'll probably lose the job to a cowboy.

Very true

 

[nickblake]

Did a school classroom in SWA because the cables kept getting chewed by squirrels , call to a hotel fire yesterday where a rat had chewed through a switch wire , the wire had got wet , and due to not having an RCD arched smoldered and set fire to the floor boards cables now installed in that area in connex

 

[davesparks]

Did a school classroom in SWA because the cables kept getting chewed by squirrels , call to a hotel fire yesterday where a rat had chewed through a switch wire , the wire had got wet , and due to not having an RCD arched smoldered and set fire to the floor boards cables now installed in that area in connex

SWA is not squirrel proof, the sheath is made of plastic!

 

[nickblake]

The steel armour is and they have not touched it since !

 

[davesparks]

The steel armour is and they have not touched it since !

The sheath is outside of the armour though isn't it! Once the sheath is compromised the cable is compromised

 

[amlu]

swa on the socket circuit under floorboards on the ground floor. thats where you most likely to encounter the little buggers. run everything else on 1st floor or in the loft, they not supposed to wander in there a lot.

 

[sajeel]

swa on the socket circuit under floorboards on the ground floor. thats where you most likely to encounter the little buggers. run everything else on 1st floor or in the loft, they not supposed to wander in there a lot.

I agree however as a safety measure I protect 1st and loft wiring

 

[davesparks]

swa on the socket circuit under floorboards on the ground floor. thats where you most likely to encounter the little buggers. run everything else on 1st floor or in the loft, they not supposed to wander in there a lot.

I take it you don't do much work out here in the countryside? Rats, tree rats and mice will almost certainly hit the loft first

 

[shanky887614]

I take it you don't do much work out here in the countryside? Rats, tree rats and mice will almost certainly hit the loft first

i thought squirrel's were worse?

 

[drzsta]

I've re-wired old flats which at a guess were circa 1970's and they were wired in a type of T&E with a heavy duty steel wire braiding on the outside of the cable, I've never seen it since but it would be ideal for situations such as this.

 

[davesparks]

i thought squirrel's were worse?

Squirrels = tree rats

And yes they are the most destructive of the lot